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Another Take on the Carlo Offer Sheet Idea

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 13 sept. 2019
Publié: 13 sept. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Modifying the idea first floated by mytduxfan.

Does Boston match? This would make it very difficult for them to sign McAvoy at his real market value without moving someone significant out.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
65 250 000 $
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Carlo, Brandon6 300 000 $
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2681 500 000 $62 515 424 $0 $2 497 500 $18 984 576 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
C
NMC
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 498 925 $1 498 925 $
AG
UFA - 2
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1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 541 000 $1 541 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 133 333 $1 133 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 7
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
DG
UFA - 3
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2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 200 000 $$1M)
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $
DG
UFA - 1
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745 000 $745 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3

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13 sept. 2019 à 19 h 10
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They don’t match
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They don’t match


They definitely match
13 sept. 2019 à 19 h 16
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
They definitely match


Assuming Moore goes on the LTIR, this still gives them less than $5MM to sign McAvoy.
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They don’t match


One hopes.

I posted this because unlike @mytduxfan , I'm cheap.
13 sept. 2019 à 19 h 22
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
They definitely match


Most NHL teams would match that, Boston wouldn’t.

A Carlo offer sheet means Boston could most likely lock up McAvoy long term this year. The reason they’re both not signed yet is cause Sweeney wants to see if they can get both guys locked up with the current cap they have now and avoid trading Moore/Miller. 2 firsts next year means they’d likely trade one next deadline, assuming they’re in contention
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13 sept. 2019 à 19 h 43
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Question for the thread maker though, are you confident the Ducks will do well enough next season where this 1st rounder won't be very high? Don't really follow the Ducks, does Carlo fill a role the Ducks really need, where he becomes worth more than a potential top 15 draft pick?
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14 sept. 2019 à 1 h 2
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I like Carlo but he had like 10 pts last year. I have a real hard time seeing him getting that much money. Pts are what D men get paid for generally. Who was the last defense only player to get that type of money on their second deal? My assumption is that he'll get closer to 4.
14 sept. 2019 à 11 h 47
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
They definitely match


I am not sure they do. McAvoy is the priority. Also, it's definitely an overpay for Carlo, at least right now. He'd have to progress and start scoring more for it to be worth it long-term. However, his defensive game is solid and that is tougher to teach. He's also big, but very mobile, which is rare.

Quoting: handslikejesus
Question for the thread maker though, are you confident the Ducks will do well enough next season where this 1st rounder won't be very high? Don't really follow the Ducks, does Carlo fill a role the Ducks really need, where he becomes worth more than a potential top 15 draft pick?


I think we're getting criminally underrated. The Ducks aren't going to be contending for the cup, but they're not a bottom-feeder. Within our division, I think we're definitely better than LA and EDM. Obviously SJ and VG are better, but I think it's close between us and CGY, VAN, and ARI. They all have stronger D, but we win on goaltending. Naturally, I am assuming our offence will recover without RC and expecting our D to better.

I understand why people think we're terrible, but, unless you kept a close eye on ANA after RC was fired (why would you because we'd missed the playoffs anyway), things immediately improved and we were much better. With a full and healthy camp under a new coach, who most of our young players seem to like and respect, I think we're gonna surprise some people. May I am being a little bit too optimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if we make the playoffs.

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I like Carlo but he had like 10 pts last year. I have a real hard time seeing him getting that much money. Pts are what D men get paid for generally. Who was the last defense only player to get that type of money on their second deal? My assumption is that he'll get closer to 4.


That is true. He's also being sheltered a little at this point (understandable given his age). He has to improve to become worth that deal, but the combination of size, mobility, IQ, is just so rare I think he'd be worth OSing. We NEED a OFD, but we also just need good D-men. Carlo is a good D-man. He's not good at everything, but he's not a liability and I think that is key. I could see him playing very well alongside Fowler.
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Question for the thread maker though, are you confident the Ducks will do well enough next season where this 1st rounder won't be very high? Don't really follow the Ducks, does Carlo fill a role the Ducks really need, where he becomes worth more than a potential top 15 draft pick?


Last year the Ducks were awful due in large part to the coaching and, once it became obvious that they weren't making the playoffs, the inevitable loss of interest while playing out the string. That said, the team performed better once Randy Carlyle was gone. With all of the problems (including Kase's season-ending injury), they still fell only to 24th (8th pick overall, which dropped when Chicago won one of the lotteries). Even if they don't make the playoffs this year, I think we're talking about picking 12th through 15th, and the player Anaheim would take there won't make an impact for at least two more years. I'd trade three years of Carlo for that, and still have a more experienced defenseman at the end of it. Moreover, I don't see Calgary or San Jose improving and the Ducks are clearly better than Edmonton, Vancouver and Los Angeles while equal (at the worst) to an Arizona team that added Kessel and Soderberg. Anaheim could well be in the playoffs this year, and Carlo would definitely help solve their problem at RD.
 
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