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Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2019
Publié: 29 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Salary projections: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15E1qqh3OfHvvhbv_pICfKT7VR1jJEVhWQOyKviWLN54/edit#gid=707766415
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
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  1. Backes, David
Détails additionnels:
Following the Marleau trade. IMO Boston seriously needs to consider making a move like this. 1st round picks are tough to lose but this teams window is closing faster than they can keep it open, using Backes cap to try to upgrade the team however possible is again, IMO, the smartest move.
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  1. Kreider, Chris
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Studnicka, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Studnicka is listed as the B's 2nd best prospect. To me, it'd be smarter for them to give up a F/ get a F back. As well as the departure of Chara at some point and potentially not being able to resign Krug.
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29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 49
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rangers jump on that deal
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29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 53
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rangers jump on that deal


I mean Kreider could realistically score 30 goals next year and get extended by the B's.. if thats the case I think its a pretty fair trade. Obviously if he walks NYR win the trade easily but thats always the risk you take when you add rentals.
29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 53
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That's an absurd price for a year (or even an extended) Kreider. Hard pass on Maroon.
29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 57
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I mean Kreider could realistically score 30 goals next year and get extended by the B's.. if thats the case I think its a pretty fair trade. Obviously if he walks NYR win the trade easily but thats always the risk you take when you add rentals.


He's never hit 30G in his career and suddenly he "realistically could score 30 goals next year?" If he does net 30 goals, he's going to want a big contract and Boston can't afford it. Boston is very high on Studnicka and he's pretty much a non-starter for 99% of trades.
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29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 58
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I mean Kreider could realistically score 30 goals next year and get extended by the B's.. if thats the case I think its a pretty fair trade. Obviously if he walks NYR win the trade easily but thats always the risk you take when you add rentals.


Studnicka was untouchable for Stone but Boston does it for Kreider? Utter nonsense.
29 juill. 2019 à 9 h 59
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That's an absurd price for a year (or even an extended) Kreider. Hard pass on Maroon.


To Boston: M. Johansson
To Devils: 2nd + 4th

I may have overvalued Kreider slightly, I'd say Kreider has more trade value though than MOJO though... so
Studnicka+3rd for Kreider+4th? Basing it off the MOJO trade I'd say that's pretty equal value
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 0
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Studnicka was untouchable for Stone but Boston does it for Kreider? Utter nonsense.


Sorry I don't follow Boston, my sincerest apologies I didn't hear of that rumour
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 1
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He's never hit 30G in his career and suddenly he "realistically could score 30 goals next year?" If he does net 30 goals, he's going to want a big contract and Boston can't afford it. Boston is very high on Studnicka and he's pretty much a non-starter for 99% of trades.


Kreider has scored 28 goals twice, playing on NYR.. a basement team. Playing with Bergy/Pasta/Krejci/Marchy I think he could bag a few more, sorry you disagree
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29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 6
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Kreider has scored 28 goals twice, playing on NYR.. a basement team. Playing with Bergy/Pasta/Krejci/Marchy I think he could bag a few more, sorry you disagree


keep in mind, he was playing hurt after the deadline because the rangers had a barebones roster but the coach still wanted to compete. His final 17 games he only had 2 goals, after potting 26 in his first 62 games (which was a pace of 34 goals per 82). Also, consider that Boston is in win now mode with a lot of their team above 30. Paying a premium may be what it takes. Rangers know this too well after not having a 1st rounder for like 5 years
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 7
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To Boston: M. Johansson
To Devils: 2nd + 4th

I may have overvalued Kreider slightly, I'd say Kreider has more trade value though than MOJO though... so
Studnicka+3rd for Kreider+4th? Basing it off the MOJO trade I'd say that's pretty equal value


The difference between JOJO and Kreider is not Studnicka vs a fourth. Lower level prospect or another high pick maybe.
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 8
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keep in mind, he was playing hurt after the deadline because the rangers had a barebones roster but the coach still wanted to compete. His final 17 games he only had 2 goals, after potting 26 in his first 62 games (which was a pace of 34 goals per 82). Also, consider that Boston is in win now mode with a lot of their team above 30. Paying a premium may be what it takes. Rangers know this too well after not having a 1st rounder for like 5 years


Only thing I can see that would kind of even out of the trade is that NYR need to shed cap as well... it would be mutually beneficial for both teams then. NYR are in rebuild, to get a prospect/pick back for a guy you know you're going to lose and also having it make you cap compliant is a double win
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 15
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The difference between JOJO and Kreider is not Studnicka vs a fourth. Lower level prospect or another high pick maybe.


IMO Kreider > MOJO. Idk what the difference would be TBH.
a B prospect(Studnicka)+3rd for a proven NHL player who's going to give you 20 goals I think at least, plus getting a 4th back.
Maybe I may be too high on Kreider but I love his game, think Boston could really utilize his skill set + I think the city would love his style of play.
Difference between Bostons 3rd and NYR 4th shouldn't be too much... maybe 20 picks at most..
https://www.tsn.ca/playing-the-percentages-in-the-nhl-draft-1.206144 only about a give or take 10% difference between a 3rd/4th rounder making it to the NHL.
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 17
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Kreider has scored 28 goals twice, playing on NYR.. a basement team. Playing with Bergy/Pasta/Krejci/Marchy I think he could bag a few more, sorry you disagree


A basement team? Since Kreider becoming an NHL regular for the Rangers they've missed the playoffs twice in 6 years. They reached....

Stanley Cup Final - 1x
Conference Final - 2x

I'd hardly call that a "basement team" but you're more than welcome too.

BTW he wouldn't play with Bergy/Marchand because that would be Pasta's spot. He'd like play with Krejci and DeBrusk, which I don't know if that's a significant upgrade. Kreider's most frequent linemates last year were Zuc and Zibby. Zibby had a better year than Krejci did and Zucc was playing at a 68 point pace this year while in New York. Lets not act like Kreider's been playing with scrubs.
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29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 43
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A basement team? Since Kreider becoming an NHL regular for the Rangers they've missed the playoffs twice in 6 years. They reached....

Stanley Cup Final - 1x
Conference Final - 2x

I'd hardly call that a "basement team" but you're more than welcome too.

BTW he wouldn't play with Bergy/Marchand because that would be Pasta's spot. He'd like play with Krejci and DeBrusk, which I don't know if that's a significant upgrade. Kreider's most frequent linemates last year were Zuc and Zibby. Zibby had a better year than Krejci did and Zucc was playing at a 68 point pace this year while in New York. Lets not act like Kreider's been playing with scrubs.


Sorry, the last 2 years they've been basement. Last 2 years as well he's outproduced MOJO who I compared that trade too.
Injuries, slumps, changes happen. I'd think Kreider would be given a shot with the big guns if someone went down
29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 58
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Sorry, the last 2 years they've been basement. Last 2 years as well he's outproduced MOJO who I compared that trade too.
Injuries, slumps, changes happen. I'd think Kreider would be given a shot with the big guns if someone went down


Ok so then your statement that he's hit 28 goals twice is wrong. He hit 28 goals once while playing with Zucc and Zibby. As far as Jojo (or Mojo as you call him) I'm not sure what he has to do with my post. I never mentioned him, but since were talking about him now...I would hope Kreider would outproduce him. Over the last two years Jojo has played 87 games and Kreider has played 137 games. Now if you wanted to make the "basement team" claim, Jojo would be a great one. New Jersey has one playoff appearance in the last 7 years and 3 in their last 10 seasons. Hell they've had the #1 pick in 2 of the last 3 years.

Jojo's bounced quite a bit last year (line wise) between a Hischier/Palmieri (quality 50pt guy) and Zacha/Bratt (couple of 30ish pt guys). I'm not saying Jojo is better than Krieder, but its tough to compare the two when one guy has doubled the games played and had far better linesmates.
29 juill. 2019 à 11 h 8
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Ok so then your statement that he's hit 28 goals twice is wrong. He hit 28 goals once while playing with Zucc and Zibby. As far as Jojo (or Mojo as you call him) I'm not sure what he has to do with my post. I never mentioned him, but since were talking about him now...I would hope Kreider would outproduce him. Over the last two years Jojo has played 87 games and Kreider has played 137 games. Now if you wanted to make the "basement team" claim, Jojo would be a great one. New Jersey has one playoff appearance in the last 7 years and 3 in their last 10 seasons. Hell they've had the #1 pick in 2 of the last 3 years.

Jojo's bounced quite a bit last year (line wise) between a Hischier/Palmieri (quality 50pt guy) and Zacha/Bratt (couple of 30ish pt guys). I'm not saying Jojo is better than Krieder, but its tough to compare the two when one guy has doubled the games played and had far better linesmates.


I compared him to MOJO (Marcus Johansson), I've never seen anyone call him JOJO.... weird, must be an american thing (must come along with the Vancouver 2012 pain)
Anyway, Kreider has better PPG, is more durable, better career possession player, less favorable zone starts, slightly worse shooter but the overall better goal scorer (more goals less gp), better size, more rugged, less injury prone... I mean IMO Kreider is just all around better than MOJO.
I based the Kreider trade off of the B's trade for MOJO. 2nd+4th for MOJO.
So to get MOJO (inferior player) it took a 2nd+4th.
To get a player for superior to him, it should cost more, no?
29 juill. 2019 à 11 h 11
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I compared him to MOJO (Marcus Johansson), I've never seen anyone call him JOJO.... weird, must be an american thing (must come along with the Vancouver 2012 pain)
Anyway, Kreider has better PPG, is more durable, better career possession player, less favorable zone starts, slightly worse shooter but the overall better goal scorer (more goals less gp), better size, more rugged, less injury prone... I mean IMO Kreider is just all around better than MOJO.
I based the Kreider trade off of the B's trade for MOJO. 2nd+4th for MOJO.
So to get MOJO (inferior player) it took a 2nd+4th.
To get a player for superior to him, it should cost more, no?


He's literally said his nickname is jojo.
29 juill. 2019 à 11 h 14
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He's literally said his nickname is jojo.


I'm Marcus Johansson and I've never said that
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 35
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Couldn’t hate that Kreider deal any more
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 37
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I'M NOT TRADING STUDNICKA what the heck is this Very Angry
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 38
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I'M NOT TRADING STUDNICKA what the heck is this Very Angry


good thing you're not the GM
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 38
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" nOw oR nEvEr "

Of course, let's trade our best forward prospect for a LEFT WINGER, LEFT, L-E-F-T winger, not RW; that has one year, ONE YEAR left on his deal and you put him on the off-side hahahaha

No thanks Maroon and you aren't getting Backes for 7th; neither McAvoy for long-term currently
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 39
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good thing you're not the GM


good thing I'm not GM? Who's that stupid to trade his best forward prospect

I've never seen any Bruins fan talk about moving Studnicka but you're the one saying " good thing you're not the GM " tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


I'm done
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 54
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" nOw oR nEvEr "

Of course, let's trade our best forward prospect for a LEFT WINGER, LEFT, L-E-F-T winger, not RW; that has one year, ONE YEAR left on his deal and you put him on the off-side hahahaha

No thanks Maroon and you aren't getting Backes for 7th; neither McAvoy for long-term currently


ya mudders onion smells like a dumpster!
This guy crying about a LW playing RW tears of joy cmon man
With these moves, you'd be able to resign Kreider "OnE yEaR" lmao
I forgot to add the 1st in relax bro, 1st Backes for 7th, okay doesn't go through add in a 6th like Toronto or a 5th. It's NBD in the grand scheme cuz
Maroon would be a perfect fit in Boston LOL
29 juill. 2019 à 13 h 59
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good thing I'm not GM? Who's that stupid to trade his best forward prospect

I've never seen any Bruins fan talk about moving Studnicka but you're the one saying " good thing you're not the GM " tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


I'm done


Good thing I'm not a bruins fan!
What do teams in win-now mode do?......... here's a hint, trade prospects/picks to upgrade their team.
'3 of your top 4 forwards are over 31.. when Chara leaves thats a massive (literally) hole to fill on the blueline
Rask needs a new deal in 2 years and will most likely start declining..

A core of McAvoy, Carlo, Pasta, Debrusk, Heinen + whatever prospects is not going to win ANYTHING and I can guarantee you that tears of joy
Now is the best opportunity, the window is closing FAST every year.
 
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