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Gardiner-Puljujarvi - 4th edition

Créé par: natze
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 juill. 2019
Publié: 24 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Adjusted salaries; Mete departure;
As usual, I tried to be realistic (by personal projected based analysis).
IMO, Mete will never be the reliable 4D he supposed to be. Too weak on offense and defense and not competitive w/ Kulak. But he's a good trait bait.
(Wouldn't be angry if I'm proved wrong in the future!! :-))
This roster is far away from being perfect. But being unable to get Marner or Konecny this is the stastistically most probable modified roster, imo.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
22 300 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
55 900 000 $
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  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $78 057 143 $0 $3 350 000 $3 442 857 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
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UFA - 4
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 1
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Given what Edmonton already has on the blueline, I don't see Holland being interested in Mete, probably would sooner have a young forward.

Now, having said that, if you went PoolBoy and say Russel for Mete and a bone, that might work. They need to clear some money off the blueline, and Montréal has cap room..... and Russel would look pretty good as a 4-6 option.

Food for thought

And Jesus! $2.3 million lol? Nooooooooo. You get him signed on the cheap...... $1 million tops. Hasn't done a bloody thing to remotely think that's a good contract!
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 2
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I really like the thought of Puljujarvi with Koko and Lehko on a line, all fins. But think they would me much wiser to trade a player like Armia over Mete as they have many options at RW. Edmonton is lacking in defensive puck possession forwards, a lot of flash but terrible defensive. So Armia is a good fit there.
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 3
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Are you kidding ? Mete is excellent defensively, and he's 21 yo. How many Dman played 2 seasons top pairing at 19-20 years old ? If that was the prize for Gardiner, MB wouldnt have sign Chiarot. Forget about Gardiner. Mete will be and he is actually a solid top4 Dman. EDM take this in a heartbeat, MTL will never to this. Maybe Armia for JP, not Mete lol.
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 4
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I really like the thought of Puljujarvi with Koko and Lehko on a line, all fins. But think they would me much wiser to trade a player like Armia over Mete as they have many options at RW,


Someone who get it ! thanks
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 8
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Quoting: Poehling
Are you kidding ? Mete is excellent defensively, and he's 21 yo. How many Dman played 2 seasons top pairing at 19-20 years old ? If that was the prize for Gardiner, MB wouldnt have sign Chiarot. Forget about Gardiner. Mete will be and he is actually a solid top4 Dman. EDM take this in a heartbeat, MTL will never to this. Maybe Armia for JP, not Mete lol.


Mete is overrated
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 9
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from everything being said it sounds like he wants to stay in Toronto and the leafs plan on bringing him back and he hasn't signed anywhere else for that reason.
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Quoting: Poehling
Are you kidding ? Mete is excellent defensively, and he's 21 yo. How many Dman played 2 seasons top pairing at 19-20 years old ? If that was the prize for Gardiner, MB wouldnt have sign Chiarot. Forget about Gardiner. Mete will be and he is actually a solid top4 Dman. EDM take this in a heartbeat, MTL will never to this. Maybe Armia for JP, not Mete lol.


Guys got the same amount of nhl goals as probably everyone on this website. Not saying goals determines how good a dman is but that’s just awful considering he’s entering his 3rd year in the nhl
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 12
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
from everything being said it sounds like he wants to stay in Toronto and the leafs plan on bringing him back and he hasn't signed anywhere else for that reason.

There’s rumours but won’t happen. Same people saying nyi were signing marner and mtl was getting laine
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 14
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There’s rumours but won’t happen. Same people saying nyi were signing marner and mtl was getting laine


yeah but we keep hearing more and more that Gardiner wants to stay and he's waiting for leafs to figure out LTIR and Marner so I think theres some weight to the rumours. Also teams haven't been willing to give gardiner term and money and it's been said that he would be willing to return for less money like 4 million or so for longer term
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
yeah but we keep hearing more and more that Gardiner wants to stay and he's waiting for leafs to figure out LTIR and Marner so I think theres some weight to the rumours. Also teams haven't been willing to give gardiner term and money and it's been said that he would be willing to return for less money like 4 million or so for longer term


Teams are scared about his injuries and I’m sure he’s considering it because he’ll have a chance at a cup considering all the teams are so close
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 18
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Teams are scared about his injuries and I’m sure he’s considering it because he’ll have a chance at a cup considering all the teams are so close


with the leafs adding Tyson Barrie it helps bulk up their d core taking pressure off gardiner to possibly return with load management and time with the leafs medical staff and time to get his health back and ultimately compete with a great team for a cup I could see it happening
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 30
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OMG habs fans I'm loosing fate in you... Mete for pool party really ?
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 32
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Mete is overrated


Explain me how is he overrated.
People thinks he worth Puljurjarvi IMO that is Underrating Mete ...
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 42
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Mete is worth more then Pool Party, just that simple. He has played more significant minutes, has looked better during those minutes and has progressed at a steady rate with more to come.

Pool party just had hip surgery and is forcing the team to trade him, you dont give up a lot of value for that player.
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 46
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IMO the Habs shouldn't be spending to the cap with long term players that don't really want (Gardiner).
Lots of teams have cap issues. Surely the Habs can pick up a one year rental to play LHD.
What's with all this love for JP? He can barely hold a NHL job with the sad sack Oilers.
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24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 49
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Darnell Nurse 2015-2016 (20 years old turn 21 in feb) 69 games 3 goals 7 assists for 10 pts -13
Victor Mete 2018-2019 (20 years old turn 21 in Jun) 71 games 13 assist for 13 pts +17 ***playing top pair minutes vs other teams best lines.
I am not saying Mete is better than Nurse or Nurse is better than Mete. Just saying D takes more time to developp and Mete could very well have a boost of confidence when he will scores. So no way we trade him now.
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 54
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Explain me how is he overrated.
People thinks he worth Puljurjarvi IMO that is Underrating Mete ...


Because most people I see here think he’s gonna be the next best thing since sliced bread
24 juill. 2019 à 22 h 58
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Mete is overrated


extremely overrated. insert charts lol: https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATRJune2019v2/SKATRSolo

he could develop into a top 4 D man and probably will, but at this point hes a 5 or 6
24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 4
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extremely overrated. insert charts lol: https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATRJune2019v2/SKATRSolo

he could develop into a top 4 D man and probably will, but at this point hes a 5 or 6


Wut is that
24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 8
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Wut is that


just some advance stats charts. throw in metes name under defenders and compare his advance stats with other "top 4 D men". Brett kulak for example, is much better than mete at the current moment
24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 11
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just some advance stats charts. throw in metes name under defenders and compare his advance stats with other "top 4 D men". Brett kulak for example, is much better than mete at the current moment


Yes Kulak is much better than Mete at the current moment, Kulak is underrated, Mete isn’t overrated
24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 11
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just some advance stats charts. throw in metes name under defenders and compare his advance stats with other "top 4 D men". Brett kulak for example, is much better than mete at the current moment


It popped us as zaitzev at first so I thought u were trolling me??
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24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 19
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It popped us as zaitzev at first so I thought u were trolling me??


no you gotta change it lol
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24 juill. 2019 à 23 h 20
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Yes Kulak is much better than Mete at the current moment, Kulak is underrated, Mete isn’t overrated

saying hes currently a top 4 D is over rating him. he'll probably get there. maybe even this season, but as of right now hes a 5 or 6 like I said. Habs wouldn't make this trade, but its annoying hearing all these habs fans praise Mete as the second coming of Doug Harvey
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25 juill. 2019 à 4 h 40
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Roster projection is based on STATISTICS.
Compared to Mete, Gard. provides far better OD+DD numbers and strenghtens defensive mobility (zone entries, points, transition play).
Pulj. is a low risk signing with potential upside (heard of repeated hip problems, but that's not confirmed yet). All trades are financial worst case scenarios. So they're definitely compatible w/ restrictions regarding salary cap issues.

If MTL wants to compete next season, they have to mature and - by given cap situation - make a gamble (Pulj.) that may pan out. If it doesn't it's not crucial in the long run and they can turn to other options (Evans, Suzuki, Caufield). But hey! - I'm far from being Dr. Know-all wink
 
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