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Équipe: 2019-20 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2019
Publié: 16 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
rumors that theres at least one more of gus and/or murphy on the move as well. Came up with a couple potential trade scenarios for them.
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CHI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Saad, Brandon
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Q gets some of his guys
2.
TOR
    Murphy

    Leafs get a defensively sound rhd to pair with rielly or muzzin and shed lots of cap
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    TBL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    Murphy

    TBL sheds a lot of cap and murphy backfills stralman on the blueline
    4.
    CHI
    1. Sergachev, Mikhail
    Détails additionnels:
    Callahan
    TBL
    1. Gustafsson, Erik
    Détails additionnels:
    TBL sheds cap and gets a more win-now defensemen with an albeit lower ceiling
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    CHI
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
    MTL
      Gustafsson

      MTL gets their sought after puck moving LDH who can qb their pp
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      VGK
      1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
      Détails additionnels:
      Gustafsson

      VGK sheds cap and gets a good dman on a cheap contract to backfill miller, who was an more unlikely candidate to be moved otherwise
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      16 juin 2019 à 23 h 6
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      Bowman gonna get fired if either one moves, Murphy’s our only good defensive defensman and gus is out best d man, bowman would be making a terrible mistake if either one moves
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      16 juin 2019 à 23 h 17
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      Quoting: Logan03
      Bowman gonna get fired if either one moves, Murphy’s our only good defensive defensman and gus is out best d man, bowman would be making a terrible mistake if either one moves


      There would presumably be another dman coming in to backfill them, either thru trade or FA or they think boqvist is ready to make the jump
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 5
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      Mtl decline. Gustafsson only got 1 good season, and he’s UFA in a year. + he’s horrible in the defensive zone.
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      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 7
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      Quoting: newman23
      There would presumably be another dman coming in to backfill them, either thru trade or FA or they think boqvist is ready to make the jump

      Gus is LHD, Murphy fine can be replaced but our top d man prospects all play on the right, and it’s not that easy to replace gus, imagine he improves in defense, he could be the next upcoming, plz don’t trade him
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      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 11
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      Quoting: Poehling
      Mtl decline. Gustafsson only got 1 good season, and he’s UFA in a year. + he’s horrible in the defensive zone.


      He's not "horrible" in the defense zone. He's a C or C- in the D zone, but hardly "horrible".
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      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 15
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      Quoting: Logan03
      Gus is LHD, Murphy fine can be replaced but our top d man prospects all play on the right, and it’s not that easy to replace gus, imagine he improves in defense, he could be the next upcoming, plz don’t trade him


      Gus plays both sides and if boqvist is ready he would replace gus, or potentially a guy like gardiner in FA. Or by making a trade like the TBL one
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 21
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      Quoting: newman23
      Gus plays both sides and if boqvist is ready he would replace gus, or potentially a guy like gardiner in FA. Or by making a trade like the TBL one


      Boqvist isn't going to walk into the NHL and replace Gus. Boqvist needs to fill out more and would be best if he stays with the Knights another season. Gardiner doesn't get you much more then Gus but will cost the Hawks $4.5M to $5M more to sign him...absolutely not worth it.
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 25
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      Quoting: ChiHawk
      He's not "horrible" in the defense zone. He's a C or C- in the D zone, but hardly "horrible".


      Definitely not a middle 1st round pick in terms of value
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 26
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      Quoting: Poehling
      Definitely not a middle 1st round pick in terms of value


      I agree, but Hawks were offered a late 1st by several teams at the last TDL.

      If the hawks draft Byram, they should move Beaudin to MTL for the #15th OA pick. Good move for both teams but looking very unlikely the Hawks grab Byram.
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 30
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      Quoting: Logan03
      Gus is LHD, Murphy fine can be replaced but our top d man prospects all play on the right, and it’s not that easy to replace gus, imagine he improves in defense, he could be the next upcoming, plz don’t trade him


      Beaudin, Carlsson, and Krys all play the left side. Jokiharju, Mitchell, Gilbert, and Boqvist play the right.
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 33
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      Quoting: ChiHawk
      Boqvist isn't going to walk into the NHL and replace Gus. Boqvist needs to fill out more and would be best if he stays with the Knights another season. Gardiner doesn't get you much more then Gus but will cost the Hawks $4.5M to $5M more to sign him...absolutely not worth it.


      Agree on boq he probably needs another year but if the team thinks he is ready he does approximately replace gus, great offensively with some defensive deficiencies. Gus probably costs you a similar price tag to gardiner if you want to resign him next year otherwise he walks for nothing so it could be worth it if you trade him and get a good return. Next season you could have gus for 5m or gardiner for 6m+return for gus
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 35
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      Quoting: newman23
      Agree on boq he probably needs another year but if the team thinks he is ready he does approximately replace gus, great offensively with some defensive deficiencies. Gus probably costs you a similar price tag to gardiner if you want to resign him next year otherwise he walks for nothing so it could be worth it if you trade him and get a good return. Next season you could have gus for 5m or gardiner for 6m+return for gus


      Too hard to say what Gus will command yet. Smartest move IMO is hang on to him and evaluate at the TDL.
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      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 35
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      Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
      Beaudin, Carlsson, and Krys all play the left side. Jokiharju, Mitchell, Gilbert, and Boqvist play the right.


      Boqvist, jokiharju elite potential and Mitchell top 4, Gilbert trash, beudin top 4, same with krys and Carlson top 6, no LHD is as good or ever will be as good as gus or any of those RHD
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 37
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      Quoting: Poehling
      Definitely not a middle 1st round pick in terms of value


      Hes a 60 pt defenseman those dont grow on trees. If he puts up 30 pts before the tdl hell fetch at least a 1st
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 40
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      Quoting: ChiHawk
      Too hard to say what Gus will command yet. Smartest move IMO is hang on to him and evaluate at the TDL.


      Agreed, but if you get a great offer for him in the offseason and the team sees boqvist or gardiner as potential fits next year I think you have to consider that option
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 40
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      Quoting: Logan03
      Boqvist, jokiharju elite potential and Mitchell top 4, Gilbert trash, beudin top 4, same with krys and Carlson top 6, no LHD is as good or ever will be as good as gus or any of those RHD


      Must be nice being able to predicting the future. What's this week's lottery numbers?

      Why'd Edmonton not sign him if he was so good? Why was he passed over in the draft...twice?
      Why didn't another team sign him right after his rights were relinquished instead of the following April?
      Why'd he spend 3 years in the minors?

      There's a damn good chance last year will be his high point. He's probably a 45-50 point d-man. Still solid offensively. But he still has issues in the Dzone.

      Defenders have to defend. And while he's gotten better, his shortcomings defensively prevent him from being the Hawks "best" defensman
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 43
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      Quoting: Logan03
      Boqvist, jokiharju elite potential and Mitchell top 4, Gilbert trash, beudin top 4, same with krys and Carlson top 6, no LHD is as good or ever will be as good as gus or any of those RHD


      Boqvist plays the same game as gus, doesnt matter what side of the ice hes on, it makes him redundant long term. He can qb the pp and transition the puck. Beaudin or maatta can take his spot on the 2nd or 2rd pair going forward. Assuming you lose him next season and dont acquire anyone else the pairs in 2020 probably look like keith-boqvist, maatta-joki, murphy-seabs
      17 juin 2019 à 0 h 54
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      Quoting: newman23
      Hes a 60 pt defenseman those dont grow on trees. If he puts up 30 pts before the tdl hell fetch at least a 1st


      27 yo, is third NHL season, he did ONE 60 points season, he’s not a 60 points dman. He might do 20 points next season, you never know. You wont get the 15th OA pick based on 1 season IMO
      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 2
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      Quoting: Poehling
      27 yo, is third NHL season, he did ONE 60 points season, he’s not a 60 points dman. He might do 20 points next season, you never know. You wont get the 15th OA pick based on 1 season IMO


      Hes had one 60 pt season bc hes only played one full season. And this was his first time ever playing in a top 4 role and on the pp. If youve watched him play you know he WILL score more than 20 pts next season assuming hes healthy. He has rare high end offensive talent
      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 6
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      Quoting: newman23
      Hes had one 60 pt season bc hes only played one full season. And this was his first time ever playing in a top 4 role and on the pp. If youve watched him play you know he WILL score more than 20 pts next season assuming hes healthy. He has rare high end offensive talent


      He has 58 career points in 120 AHL games.

      He had 30 points in 76 NHL games prior to last year.
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      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 8
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      Quoting: newman23
      Hes had one 60 pt season bc hes only played one full season. And this was his first time ever playing in a top 4 role and on the pp. If youve watched him play you know he WILL score more than 20 pts next season assuming hes healthy. He has rare high end offensive talent


      Keep him lol
      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 13
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      Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
      He has 58 career points in 120 AHL games.

      He had 30 points in 76 NHL games prior to last year.


      playing bottom pair minutes, no pp time, and being bench by Q every other game. Play him 20 mins a night in a transition system and hes an indisputably high end skater passer and shooter
      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 13
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      Quoting: Poehling
      Keep him lol


      I'm just roleplaying scenarios based on a rumor to see what the team might look like. we probably should keep him
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      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 18
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      Quoting: newman23
      playing bottom pair minutes, no pp time, and being bench by Q every other game. Play him 20 mins a night in a transition system and hes an indisputably high end skater passer and shooter


      Didn't know Q coached Rockford.
      17 juin 2019 à 1 h 20
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      Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
      Didn't know Q coached Rockford.


      lol AHL stats are literally irrelevant when you have play 100+ nhl games
       
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