Oilers say no to that deal. As an Oilers fan, we would lose that trade considering Nikita Zaitsev had an tough season, close to 3 million more money, and we are up against the cap.

Agree with Spencer above, too much cap for Oilers to take on. Gotta think the Leaf add a modest sweetener to Arizona with no retention. (if. Arizona has cap space) The actual cash output is about the same for Hossa and Marleau.

Hossa only costs Arizona about $1m in actual dollars, so they're not worried about moving him. If they need the cap space, they can LTIR him same as the Leafs. Arizona is only interested in Marleau because they're a West coast team he might waive for and they know they can get a premium asset to take him. No one is taking Marleau without a premium asset included.

True. Makes more more sense to trade Marleau (50%) for Kesler.

Kesler would be a perfect trade if Anaheim doesn't think he'll play again and needs to save some cash. You might not even need to retain depending on Anaheim's cap situation and what they end up doing with Perry.

Exactly why Arizona does that deal, they could spend a Million on Hossa to sit on LTIR or they could move to the Leafs and spend 1.5 million in actual dollars on Marleau who will play 82 games as he always does. Internal cap is the only concern Arizona has

Sure, but they're not doing that for free... Look at what Chicago gave up to unload Bickell. You're giving up an asset to get Arizona to help.

Oh absolutely agree, there will be early rnd pick attched

I don't understand that at all. Kesler gives full cap relief next season Marleau despite his actual post July 1 cash outlay is about 2.75m but is still. a 6.25m cap hit for Ducks. I'd be terrified as Leaf that at some time in the future that 6.8m Kesler is deemed fit and then it's a cap hit.

Bickell actually cost lots of real dollars for multiple years. A better comparison is the the 7m cap hit for the unpaid Datsyuk for a year. Hossa cost 1m per year for two years. Now Arizona only does a Marleau deal if they have cap space....which isn't all that much now.

You must not be familiar with Robidas Island?

I am, but so what. The league decides if a player is fit. But Robidas Isle is a factor why do the Ducks make the deal?. They still have to absorb Marleau's 6.25m hit this year. Why does Kesler agree to waive his NMC.? He's living in California he doesn't want the hassle of reporting to the Leafs.
Really folks just keep on repeating this nonsensical Kesler to Leafs trade thinking it has validity.

If the Leafs are retaining money on Marleau, the Ducks don't have to absorb his full cap hit this year. You're right that the operative question is whether Kesler would waive; I don't see any reason the Ducks (an internal cap team) wouldn't rather pay Marleau $3M to play for them than pay Kesler $6M to not play for them.

What? Doesn't insurance cover all or certainly most of Kesler's LTIR.

Not sure, does it? There isn't a lot of publicly available information about the NHL's contract insurance plan. I personally don't know if Kesler's deal was covered.

Almost all contracts are covered....maybe a just 1m to be paid by the team. Horton's totally uninsured deal allowed the Leaf to get out from Clarkson's contract (Clarkson wasn't injured at the time.)

I don't believe that's true. My understanding is that the NHL's league-wide policy covers three contracts per team, and that teams have to secure any additional insurance beyond that.

You are hugely overvaluing Kapanen's value around the league. As a young, speedy winger he has some value, but nowhere near that of Dougie Hamilton.