You are successfully over cap without signing Kapanen, Johnsson or a 3RD... this will be an interesting off-season.

When you outplay Matthews and Tavares, why shouldn't you get their salary?

You slipped, should have named this Marner's dad and his agent stop being delusional

Nathan Horton is not a top 6 winger for the leafs. There is the 1st 5.3 million you need

Horton still needs to be put on LTIR so thats $5,300,000 right there. Brown is probably getting traded as well and possibly Zaitsev/Kadri/Kapanen. Marleau is very unlikely to be moved. All together, that's a lot of cap they can free up

He's asking to be the highest paid winger in NHL history, as an RFA. The UFA years is supposed to be the expensive years

There's no way he signs for 6*$9.5M, maybe 4 or 5*$9.5 but if you want him to give up 2 years of free agency it's going to be $10M+.

Marner is just going to keep pointing at Nylander's $6.9M for .68 PPG & Marner's own .93 PPG.

He is not even close to comparable to Matthews or Tavares who are on another level. Marner has inflated numbers from playing with JT. Matthews is best scorer in the league at even strenght since he came into the league and he missed significant time.. he is a beast. Also JT is top-10 C in the league and is good at everything.. consistently picks up production of his winger by 25-30%, which is case here as well.. Marner bridge deal for 3yrs at 7 or 6-7yr deal at max 10. It is gonna start with 9 tho.

Horton on LTIR takes care of $5.3M

@TavaresIsALeaf is my hero lol
I thought @Trickster was trolling but...nope lol

As soon as he "outplays Matthews OR Tavares" he can ask for their salary

Marner getting $2.6 million more than Nylander because Marner gets 0.25 more ppg than Nylander makes sense tho

That's the point, he has outplayed and outscored them. Now you pay what he's worth or he goes elsewhere. I'd take him on my team at 10.6Mand think it's a bargain by today's standards. He'd be the highest paid winger and prove he doesn't need your favourite centermen to be successful.

It takes more than just scoring to play center

So after putting Horton on LTIR you will have 4.59m in cap space to sign Kapanen, Johnsson, a 3RD and still have enough cap space for injury call-ups

Jeff Skinner is about to get 9 mill, Marner is getting at least 10

That's not a basis for an argument why Marner gets 10.
How many goals did Skinner have?
How many goals did Marner have?

That is 100% going to benefit Marners side of the argument, Marner had 30 more points than Skinner

Just heard that is floating around that Ferris has said Marner will do 10M for 3yrs...

Holy moly ! If that's how he's playing this and that's what he wants then, man, do I ever hope they trade him...

Years of service is a thing in the NHL and Skinner has the advantage there.
This is another reason why I am hesitant to give Marner anything above 8 million.

Years of service means something too.

Years of service is why you end up with bad contracts. The world has changed in Hockey, you pay for what they can do now or someone else will. Toronto did it for Matthews now they either step up for Marner or he's gone. Serves them right.

You make it sound like I was saying it meant everything.
Years of service does not mean everything but it does mean something.
It's never everything or nothing, it's somewhere in between.

First off I doubt that Skinner is getting $9M but even if someone loses their mind and gives him $9M a couple of things to remember:

1) Skinner is a UFA & has much more leverage than Marner
2) Skinner has 244 career goals to Marner's 67,
3) Goals are much more valuable than assists, standard analysis values a goal as 1.7 assists because goals count on the scoreboard and there are an average of 1.67 assists per goal., and Skinner is a proven goal scorer with 30+ 4 times in his career

I stand corrected, Buffalo lost their minds