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Marner steal

Créé par: styzer
Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 mai 2019
Publié: 7 mai 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
With one more top forward Carolina can be top team for 4 years. And 4 picks about 25 is acceptable prize for it. Or not?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
79 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
32 200 000 $
2800 000 $
512 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
33 200 000 $
13 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell12 000 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
2.
CAR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Fleury, Haydn [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
Logo de BOS
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Logo de OTT
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Logo de CGY
Logo de BOS
2020
Logo de CAR
Logo de NJD
Logo de CAR
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
Logo de OTT
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de BUF
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2021
Logo de CAR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 000 000 $82 756 666 $0 $3 707 500 $243 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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7 mai 2019 à 16 h 10
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hE wOuLd mOrE LiKelY tHaN nOT SiGn fOr sEveN yEArS aNd eiGHt pEr tHaN siGn tHiS
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7 mai 2019 à 16 h 11
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You've willingly entered cap hell.
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 11
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hE wOuLd mOrE LiKelY tHaN nOT SiGn fOr sEveN yEArS aNd eiGHt pEr tHaN siGn tHiS


But he would, and you'd be insane to pay Marner $12mill.
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 13
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But he would, and you'd be insane to pay Marner $12mill.


your false hope that these guys will just give up years of their prime on ridiculously team friendly contracts because you’re the Toronto maple Leafs is laughable. 0/1 already after the Nylander situation
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 15
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You've willingly entered cap hell.


Having top players making top dollar is not cap hell. Having no cap, a team that isn't good enough and many bad contracts that are almost impossible to trade is cap hell. Look at Edmonton, or Nashville, or Vegas, or Winnipeg, or Tampa (More so next off season) as teams with way worse cap situations than the Leafs or what this would be.

That being said, this isn't going to happen.
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 18
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enjoy.

Gladly take the 4 1st rounders, and drop less than 10 mil on a free agent like panarin, duchene, skinner, etc.
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7 mai 2019 à 16 h 21
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your false hope that these guys will just give up years of their prime on ridiculously team friendly contracts because you’re the Toronto maple Leafs is laughable. 0/1 already after the Nylander situation


by ridiculously team friendly, do you mean the same contract as the art ross winner? Even though he produced substantially less?
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 22
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enjoy.

Gladly take the 4 1st rounders, and drop less than 10 mil on a free agent like panarin, duchene, skinner, etc.


or offer sheet Aho
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7 mai 2019 à 16 h 32
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Having top players making top dollar is not cap hell. Having no cap, a team that isn't good enough and many bad contracts that are almost impossible to trade is cap hell. Look at Edmonton, or Nashville, or Vegas, or Winnipeg, or Tampa (More so next off season) as teams with way worse cap situations than the Leafs or what this would be.

That being said, this isn't going to happen.


"Top dollar" does not equal almost Connor McDavid's salary. Top dollar is 10 million at most, maybe 11 million for generational talents (or people in that realm of good). Also, you're giving up your next four first round picks for him. What happens if being a wild card team doesn't stick and you fall out of a playoff spot next season through chance or injuries? There's a reason you don't offer-sheet top players. It straddles you cap-wise and kills your future.
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7 mai 2019 à 16 h 33
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You've willingly entered cap hell.


Not really he can easily move staal, nino, Williams and that’ll from up 9-14 mill plus u can trade de haan for a cheaper defence that’ll do the same job even Hamilton could go at any time. There are plenty of ways to get cap space none of these guys have bad contracts.
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 36
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BOI HAVE YOU LOST YOUR DAMN MIND CAUSE I'LL HELP YOU FIND IT
7 mai 2019 à 16 h 38
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During the last two years, Aho and Marner have identical stats. You could certainly argue Aho is the superior player, but somehow you want the Canes paying a ver fair 9.5m for Aho and 12m for Marner. Canes aren't doing that.
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7 mai 2019 à 17 h 3
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I think the leafs would take this all the way to the bank.. with one caveat, because we now have so many 1st round picks, and you're trading Faulk in this agm anyway, we'll give you the Muzzin offer. You get one of your 1st back, a couple b prospects.. and with so many picks we'll give you a second to retain half his salary.. and because with have all that cap space that we woula spent on Marner, we'll use some of that to go sign Duchenne.

But I doubt the Canes would do this for reasons outlined above. Shame, really.


I dont think this os Marner business is a legitimate threat. Which is why the leafs shouldn't be strong armed into signing Mitch to anything that is a penny more than the Kucherov deal. If it is a real threat , than we should take the 4 1sts everytime, and make adds like what is stepped out above. It isnt hard to see what approach makes the leafs a better team...
7 mai 2019 à 17 h 20
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by ridiculously team friendly, do you mean the same contract as the art ross winner? Even though he produced substantially less?


Marner is the best player on his team. He wants to get paid like it, especially just now being 3 months removed from Matthews getting 11.4. He just wants 11. If the Leafs don’t give it to him, someone will
7 mai 2019 à 17 h 25
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Marner is the best player on his team. He wants to get paid like it, especially just now being 3 months removed from Matthews getting 11.4. He just wants 11. If the Leafs don’t give it to him, someone will


I understand why Marner might feel that way for the comparison with Matthews, but NHL salaries are based on league comparisons. But if we go be club comparison, in the post Marner makes 25% that the just as good home grown Aho. By your logic, shouldn't Marner get just 9.5m?
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7 mai 2019 à 17 h 32
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Marner is the best player on his team. He wants to get paid like it, especially just now being 3 months removed from Matthews getting 11.4. He just wants 11. If the Leafs don’t give it to him, someone will


Fine by me.

I like the idea of trading his rights to Colorado for Makar if thats his demands. Marner can then try to convince Sakic why he he's worth 11m. He wouldn't be the best player on that team, that would be MacKinnon- and he makes like 6M and change.

Man, Marner would have a tough time getting Sakic to believe he's better than Rantanen (and Ive yet to see one AGM with Rantanen at AM money)..

Oops! Marner just bluffed himself into 9 M and change aav contract, probably the same contract Toronto offered him, except now he's playing in Colorado..

and, in this example the Leafs get Makar plus then maybe use the money budgeted for Marner to sign Duchene. If i was Dubas and this opportunity presented itself I wouldn't really care what Mitchy wants. Id make that trade and ufa signing all day long knowing full well the leafs are a better team because of it..
 
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