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19-20 Ducks

Créé par: TheJoeMan
Date de création initiale: avr 8, 2019
Publié: 8 avr 2019 à 16 h 43
Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Explications
Preds fans: Is that enough for Subban? I really have no idea what it would take to pry him away. I'm also not crazy about trading away another young d-man but we need a veteran, impact, right-handed d-man badly. I also feel y'all will be underwhelmed by Sherwood but the kid is a quality player who I think would fit in well with the way Nashville plays. But I'd like to know how off I am with Subban.

Other than that there's really nothing else we can do with this squad. No one is going to take Perry off of our hands but thanks to Kelser and Eaves potentially being done, we may not have to. The defense still looks weak, even with Subban. We just didn't see enough of Guhle to get a good read on him but I'd like to see what he can do. I think Mahura could be really good but that depends on if he makes the leap next year. We really don't have any other assets to acquire an additional d-man in a trade and for the love of god Murph, no more bottom-pair d-man signings. You suck at those. I have Lovejoy there because he'd be a fine spare and he was a great teammate when he was here.

Here's to a healthy roster and a great new coach!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hutchinson, Michael11 300 000 $
Lovejoy, Ben11 000 000 $
Transactions
ANA
  1. Subban, P.K.
NSH
  1. Larsson, Jacob
  2. Sherwood, Kiefer
  3. 2019 1e round pick (STL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Simon Despres: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Devin Shore: 759 000 $ (33%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
STL
2020
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
2021
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 000 000 $79 121 424 $0 $2 915 000 $3 878 576 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
3 789 444 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
ANA
Steel, Sam
863 333 $
C
RFA - 2
ANA
Silfverberg, Jakob
5 250 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
ANA
Jones, Max
863 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
8 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
ANA
Terry, Troy
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
ANA
Ritchie, Nick
1 498 925 $
AG
RFA - 2
ANA
Henrique, Adam
5 825 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
ANA
Kase, Ondrej
2 600 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
ANA
Shore, Devin
1 541 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
ANA
Rowney, Carter
1 133 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
ANA
Sprong, Daniel
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
ANA
Perry, Corey
8 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
ANA
Perry, Corey
1 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
ANA
Fowler, Cam
6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
NSH
Subban, P.K.
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
ANA
Gibson, John
6 400 000 $
G
UFA - 8
ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
5 205 556 $
DG
UFA - 3
ANA
Manson, Josh
4 100 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Hutchinson, Michael
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
ANA
Guhle, Brendan
697 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
ANA
Mahura, Josh
745 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Lovejoy, Ben
1 000 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
ANA
Eaves, Patrick
3 150 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
ANA
Kesler, Ryan
6 875 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3

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8 avr 2019 à 16 h 46
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I am not a Predators fan but I would think this is not enough.

As a cheaper alternative, to fill the right side, what are your thoughts about Brendan Smith for Patrick Eaves? I figured the Ducks are looking to fill the right side of the blueline, and looking to bring up their youth at forward next year. Maybe a late round pick could be added, but would that make sense? Would it interest you?

Also I do not think you are able to just put Kesler and Eaves on the LTIR to shed their cap hit anyway.
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8 avr 2019 à 16 h 50
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Quoting: rja
I am not a Predators fan but I would think this is not enough.

As a cheaper alternative, to fill the right side, what are your thoughts about Brendan Smith for Patrick Eaves? I figured the Ducks are looking to fill the right side of the blueline, and looking to bring up their youth at forward next year. Maybe a late round pick could be added, but would that make sense? Would it interest you?

Also I do not think you are able to just put Kesler and Eaves on the LTIR to shed their cap hit anyway.


adding Brendan Smith is like tying an anchor to their blue line.
8 avr 2019 à 16 h 54
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Quoting: rja
I am not a Predators fan but I would think this is not enough.

As a cheaper alternative, to fill the right side, what are your thoughts about Brendan Smith for Patrick Eaves? I figured the Ducks are looking to fill the right side of the blueline, and looking to bring up their youth at forward next year. Maybe a late round pick could be added, but would that make sense? Would it interest you?

Also I do not think you are able to just put Kesler and Eaves on the LTIR to shed their cap hit anyway.


We need an impact RHD. From all accounts Smith has been a bit of a disaster, no? I feel like Subban is acquire-able and not so expensive that we can't afford him (he's still really expensive for this team). If not him it would have to be someone of his caliber or only slightly less than.
8 avr 2019 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: saysthemachine
adding Brendan Smith is like tying an anchor to their blue line.


As a Detroit fan I'll second that!
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8 avr 2019 à 17 h 39
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Is Anaheim rebuilding?
8 avr 2019 à 18 h 07
#6
Danes1294
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Lovejoy will easily go somewhere else for his 2.6m again
8 avr 2019 à 18 h 08
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Thank You GMJR
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You’re not getting subban for that lemme tell ya. Any subban deal would have to be Manson + 2019 first (Ducks) as a base. (Which would be stupid for Ducks anyways) He’s a Norris caliber D
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8 avr 2019 à 18 h 38
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Quoting: saysthemachine
adding Brendan Smith is like tying an anchor to their blue line.


Quoting: TheJoeMan
We need an impact RHD. From all accounts Smith has been a bit of a disaster, no? I feel like Subban is acquire-able and not so expensive that we can't afford him (he's still really expensive for this team). If not him it would have to be someone of his caliber or only slightly less than.


Quoting: aedoran
As a Detroit fan I'll second that!


The way I see you have two openings at RHD (Mahura is really at the left point). You can go out and find another RHD through free agency, so there is your impact RHD. However, you need another defenseman on the right side.

Smith is not a "disaster" and is not an anchor on defense. Up until the end of the season where he was consistently playing forward (mind you not his position), he had solid possession metrics and overall played pretty well. The problem this year was that they wanted to give time to Pionk and Deangelo, and they were carrying 8 defensemen on the NHL roster the entire season. Smith was unfortunately the odd man out. I grant you that the previous season he was out of shape, and his play suffered. But this year, when he was playing defense, he played pretty well; well enough to earn an NHL roster spot.

I am almost certain that @saysthemachine would want to bring up the amount of penalties he took this year, but may I remind you that he was playing out of position. He's also a great pro in the locker room, and deserves a spot at a top 6. Anaheim happens to have an opening.

Lastly, as previously noted, you have Eaves on LTIR, which you are not allowed to do unless he is in fact unfit to play. Either you leave him and his full 3.15 million dollar cap hit at the NHL level, or bury him the minors. If you bury him, he still bears a 2.075 million dollar cap hit on the ducks. Rather than eating approximately 2 million dollars in cap for nothing, might as well put it to good use, and fill the third pairing RHD slot.
8 avr 2019 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: rja
The way I see you have two openings at RHD (Mahura is really at the left point). You can go out and find another RHD through free agency, so there is your impact RHD. However, you need another defenseman on the right side.

Smith is not a "disaster" and is not an anchor on defense. Up until the end of the season where he was consistently playing forward (mind you not his position), he had solid possession metrics and overall played pretty well. The problem this year was that they wanted to give time to Pionk and Deangelo, and they were carrying 8 defensemen on the NHL roster the entire season. Smith was unfortunately the odd man out. I grant you that the previous season he was out of shape, and his play suffered. But this year, when he was playing defense, he played pretty well; well enough to earn an NHL roster spot.

I am almost certain that @saysthemachine would want to bring up the amount of penalties he took this year, but may I remind you that he was playing out of position. He's also a great pro in the locker room, and deserves a spot at a top 6. Anaheim happens to have an opening.

Lastly, as previously noted, you have Eaves on LTIR, which you are not allowed to do unless he is in fact unfit to play. Either you leave him and his full 3.15 million dollar cap hit at the NHL level, or bury him the minors. If you bury him, he still bears a 2.075 million dollar cap hit on the ducks. Rather than eating approximately 2 million dollars in cap for nothing, might as well put it to good use, and fill the third pairing RHD slot.


And I can bring up penalties he took in Detroit dropping the gloves when your team is set up in the offensive zone and just penalties in the offensive zone period. He's not smart a player.
8 avr 2019 à 18 h 55
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Quoting: aedoran
And I can bring up penalties he took in Detroit dropping the gloves when your team is set up in the offensive zone and just penalties in the offensive zone period. He's not smart a player.


So because he has taken penalties in the offensive zone at some point in his career he's not worthy of vying for a top six spot? I will attach his stats to this post. Please look at his Corsi and Fenwick stats while on the Red Wings; I do not think you should complain that much about his play there.

And at worst case he's their seventh defenseman, no? The Ducks want to bring up Steel and Jones full time, so there is no room for Eaves. Do you think it's better just to leave Eaves in the minors and pay 2 million against the cap instead of at least having some depth option? We can agree to disagree on that.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/smithbr05.html
8 avr 2019 à 18 h 57
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Quoting: rja
So because he has taken penalties in the offensive zone at some point in his career he's not worthy of vying for a top six spot? I will attach his stats to this post. Please look at his Corsi and Fenwick stats while on the Red Wings; I do not think you should complain that much about his play there.

And at worst case he's their seventh defenseman, no? The Ducks want to bring up Steel and Jones full time, so there is no room for Eaves. Do you think it's better just to leave Eaves in the minors and pay 2 million against the cap instead of at least having some depth option? We can agree to disagree on that.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/smithbr05.html


I have season tickets I got to see him play a lot
8 avr 2019 à 19 h 06
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Quoting: aedoran
I have season tickets I got to see him play a lot


Ok so let's agree to disagree. I only thought given the Ducks' situation, it could be a creative idea. I am looking forward to @TheJoeMan's response.
8 avr 2019 à 19 h 07
#13
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Quoting: rja
The way I see you have two openings at RHD (Mahura is really at the left point). You can go out and find another RHD through free agency, so there is your impact RHD. However, you need another defenseman on the right side.

Smith is not a "disaster" and is not an anchor on defense. Up until the end of the season where he was consistently playing forward (mind you not his position), he had solid possession metrics and overall played pretty well. The problem this year was that they wanted to give time to Pionk and Deangelo, and they were carrying 8 defensemen on the NHL roster the entire season. Smith was unfortunately the odd man out. I grant you that the previous season he was out of shape, and his play suffered. But this year, when he was playing defense, he played pretty well; well enough to earn an NHL roster spot.

I am almost certain that @saysthemachine would want to bring up the amount of penalties he took this year, but may I remind you that he was playing out of position. He's also a great pro in the locker room, and deserves a spot at a top 6. Anaheim happens to have an opening.

Lastly, as previously noted, you have Eaves on LTIR, which you are not allowed to do unless he is in fact unfit to play. Either you leave him and his full 3.15 million dollar cap hit at the NHL level, or bury him the minors. If you bury him, he still bears a 2.075 million dollar cap hit on the ducks. Rather than eating approximately 2 million dollars in cap for nothing, might as well put it to good use, and fill the third pairing RHD slot.


The Ducks have only once secured a top-pairing d-man via free agency since 05 (Scott Niedermayer) and that was due largely to his desire to play with his brother. Every significant player they've acquired since has either been through trade or the draft. I would love it if that were an option but it just isn't. Even if it were there's only Trouba and Myers as options (Karlsson is not remotely an option) and they'll probably be too expensive.

As for Eaves, okay technically he can't be placed on LTIR right now but UFAs can't be signed and trades can't be made either. This is a speculative exercise. Eaves has played all of 9 games in the last two years and all reports suggest whatever was causing his muscle issues have returned. I think it's safe to assume he's played his last hockey game.
8 avr 2019 à 19 h 15
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Quoting: mhockey91
You’re not getting subban for that lemme tell ya. Any subban deal would have to be Manson + 2019 first (Ducks) as a base. (Which would be stupid for Ducks anyways) He’s a Norris caliber D


Would Nashville really be that bullish on retaining Subban? My thinking is they may want to move his salary to try to sign Josi to an extension. But maybe I'm overvaluing what his next contract is going to be like. And you're right. the Ducks would be crazy to part with Manson (with his very reasonable contract) and what shouldn't be any worse than the 8th overall pick for Subban. There's gotta be somewhere in the middle that can make sense for both teams.
8 avr 2019 à 19 h 19
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1109315

I think you actually can go and get an UFA. I made a post just for you smile
8 avr 2019 à 20 h 46
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Quoting: rja
I am not a Predators fan but I would think this is not enough.

As a cheaper alternative, to fill the right side, what are your thoughts about Brendan Smith for Patrick Eaves? I figured the Ducks are looking to fill the right side of the blueline, and looking to bring up their youth at forward next year. Maybe a late round pick could be added, but would that make sense? Would it interest you?

Also I do not think you are able to just put Kesler and Eaves on the LTIR to shed their cap hit anyway.


Pass on Smith. I don't particularly rate Subban either. He's a good top pairing guy, but not a #1D in my opinion and never has been one. Too many mistakes defensively and too often moves out of position to make a hit that ultimately does nothing or he just misses completely. He's been over-hyped because he was the only good D-man in one of the biggest hockey cities in the world. Won a Norris having a good year in a shortened season where many of the top players came in out of shape (that whole/half year was a weird one). Pass on him and his 9M contract. He's not even on the top pairing in NSH and had a really bad year.

Quoting: aedoran
Is Anaheim rebuilding?


No, just transitioning from Getzlaf, Perry and Kesler to Steel, Terry, Jones and whoever we get in this years draft.

Quoting: mhockey91
You’re not getting subban for that lemme tell ya. Any subban deal would have to be Manson + 2019 first (Ducks) as a base. (Which would be stupid for Ducks anyways) He’s a Norris caliber D


Agreed. I think Manson is overrated by people who don't actually watch him play, but he's better value for money than Subban. Subban is much better offensively, but slightly worse defensively. Both are prone to horrible mistakes. One-for-one, I obviously take Subban, but, at more than half the price, I think I keep Manson + 2019 1st round + whatever else it would take to get Subban over.
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