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Créé par: SammyT_51
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 avr. 2019
Publié: 5 avr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I see Kapanen+Lindgren/Borgman+2nd round pick as a good value for Kreider. Also.. Marleau orpiked in this scenario and for those saying league would investigate it, this is the way they are investigating stuff:

NHL: "did you arranged that with each other?"
Dubas: "Nope"
Shero: "Nope"
NHL: "fine, thanks for honesty guys" lol

in all seriousness I doubt it happens but here is if it does happen and Leafs would go back to drawing board with NYR about Kreider at draft.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
23 000 000 $
610 416 000 $
750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick
11 000 000 $
Turkulainen, Jerry
2925 000 $
Sambrook, Jordan
3925 000 $
Howdeshell, Keeghan
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Marleau, Patrick
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
3.
NYR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lindgren, Jesper
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
4.
BUF
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita (500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Retention from 750k to 500k possible. Maybe even milion but then it would take more than Nelson imo.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de DAL
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 000 000 $81 705 699 $0 $82 500 $1 294 301 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 416 000 $10 416 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Marleau, Patrick
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
812 500 $812 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Avantage numérique 2
Infériorité numérique 1
Infériorité numérique 2
Marleau, P.

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5 avr. 2019 à 14 h 49
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I'd rather have Kapanen than Kreider. He's cheaper and similar player. Kreider is hardly an upgrade over Kap.
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5 avr. 2019 à 15 h 0
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I'd rather have Kapanen than Kreider. He's cheaper and similar player. Kreider is hardly an upgrade over Kap.


Point wise sure, but certainly not presence! Especially with star line mates, i think his twins would grow perms overnight smile
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5 avr. 2019 à 15 h 10
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Value wise I'd say it's pretty close. Maybe a slight overpayment but no trade is ever 50/50.. I think Kapanen and especially Lindgren are more valuable to the Leafs though cause they're younger, cheaper, and under team control longer. Kreider can walk to UFA in a year and command a big raise, then Toronto walks away with nothing long term outta this deal. I think Lindgren is a very underrated prospect. He's very good at moving the puck, I think even better than Liljegren, just needs some work on his defence and he'll be a good 4-5 d-man. I'd find it hard to give him and Kapanen up who is gonna be a top 6 guy on a very reasonable contract for a long time, for just a 1 year rental
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5 avr. 2019 à 15 h 11
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Id rather have Kapanen > Kreider
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5 avr. 2019 à 15 h 13
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Sorry Sami, that is horrid deal for Kapanen. Believe Kapanen is under Leafs control for five years, and Kreider is on year away from UFA,
I know Stralman can sign with any team he wants, but wouldn't Buffalo (and Stralman) be better off just signing with Buffalo for 4m?, instead of signing with he Leafs.
I don't mind Zaitsev and his contract as a Leaf, but it's almost impossible to believe that another teams takes his cap hit or most of and term without sending money back to the Leafs. Teams would prefer to keep that cap space and spend it elsewhere. If Nelson is a competent NHLer, why to the Sabres make that trade? If Nelson isn't competent for full time duty why do the Leafs make that trade?
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5 avr. 2019 à 16 h 6
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Too funny.... yous guys are hilarious......

How bout this.... just go ask Shanny who'd he rather have Kap or Kreider....
You, evidently would not like his opinion....
5 avr. 2019 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: xxNYRxx
Too funny.... yous guys are hilarious......

How bout this.... just go ask Shanny who'd he rather have Kap or Kreider....
You, evidently would not like his opinion....


You know Shanny pretty well hey? Longtime friends?
5 avr. 2019 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: dzad96
You know Shanny pretty well hey? Longtime friends?


No worries little guy....

You obviously got my point.... that's all you've got...

Thanks, but I know the answer.
5 avr. 2019 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: palhal
Sorry Sami, that is horrid deal for Kapanen. Believe Kapanen is under Leafs control for five years, and Kreider is on year away from UFA,
I know Stralman can sign with any team he wants, but wouldn't Buffalo (and Stralman) be better off just signing with Buffalo for 4m?, instead of signing with he Leafs.
I don't mind Zaitsev and his contract as a Leaf, but it's almost impossible to believe that another teams takes his cap hit or most of and term without sending money back to the Leafs. Teams would prefer to keep that cap space and spend it elsewhere. If Nelson is a competent NHLer, why to the Sabres make that trade? If Nelson isn't competent for full time duty why do the Leafs make that trade?


Ummm no... Kap is a RFA this offseason....
Or another words... TML cant afford to keep him..
That's not 5 years of control....
(Funny you're only a know it all when it serves you....)
5 avr. 2019 à 19 h 40
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Ummm no... Kap is a RFA this offseason....
Or another words... TML cant afford to keep him..
That's not 5 years of control....
(Funny you're only a know it all when it serves you....)


Then you don't understand what "control" means or RFAs. What nonsense that the Leafs can't afford Kapanen. C'mon, no one believes that self serving logic you proposed. The Leafs can certainly sign all their RFAs this summer. Actually if Marleau retires, and then his cap traded the Leafs are virtually cap compliant. But even if Marleau stays a Leafs the Leafs can still sign their RFAs, but would have to trade 6,5m worth of players. Either way Kapanen trade value is for for five years before he becomes a UFA.
(Funny, you're only a know it all when you don't know the CBA .). If the CBA is so meaningless to you, we might as all play your silly game, and have the cap 100m next season.
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5 avr. 2019 à 22 h 23
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Then you don't understand what "control" means or RFAs. What nonsense that the Leafs can't afford Kapanen. C'mon, no one believes that self serving logic you proposed. The Leafs can certainly sign all their RFAs this summer. Actually if Marleau retires, and then his cap traded the Leafs are virtually cap compliant. But even if Marleau stays a Leafs the Leafs can still sign their RFAs, but would have to trade 6,5m worth of players. Either way Kapanen trade value is for for five years before he becomes a UFA.
(Funny, you're only a know it all when you don't know the CBA .). If the CBA is so meaningless to you, we might as all play your silly game, and have the cap 100m next season.


Yea you must be right.... nobody anywhere else thinks TML is having cap issues....
Utter nonsense....

Haha.... yous guys....

I have been wishing for TML to be more a successful meaningful franchise.... just forgot what comes with even a little success in Leaf land....
5 avr. 2019 à 23 h 13
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Yea you must be right.... nobody anywhere else thinks TML is having cap issues....
Utter nonsense....

Haha.... yous guys....

Oh, I agree the Leafs have cap issues, as I said I reckon they are 6.5m over cap next season. But it deliberate nonsense or just lack of non knowledge that the Leaf can't sign their RFAs including Kapanen.
They can sign them this sign and them make trades to becap compliant. Leafs and other teams, just don't let valuable RFAs leave as UFA because they are over the cap during the summer.
Tampa will be over the cap if they sign Point before they Miller or Gourde. Do you expect them just let Point "walk" if they over the cap on July 12th? A team isn't actually over the cap till October when their 23 man roster is set.
Haha you guys who know nothing about the cap and how roster are constructed.
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