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Leafs trade with canes

Créé par: Leafs_Fan_1986
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 8 mars 2019
Publié: 8 mars 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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  1. Pesce, Brett
Détails additionnels:
Nylander > Pesce
What evens this out?
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1783 500 000 $64 947 333 $0 $0 $18 552 667 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
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775 000 $775 000 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
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675 000 $675 000 $
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8 mars 2019 à 21 h 25
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Nothing. You don't trade top line wingers for decent top 4 Dmen. Ask Edmonton how that works out.
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8 mars 2019 à 21 h 30
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@Goulet is absolutely right. Would think a young forward coming back. Foegele or necas.
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 34
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Do you not read the posts? Nylander is obviously worth more, hence Nylander > Pesce. Hall for Larsen wouldn’t have worked fine for the oilers if extra pieces had gone with Larsen. I’m just wondering what else canes fans would offer with pesce
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 39
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What about pesce, fox and foegele?
What about pesce fox and 2019 1st?
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Do you not read the posts? Nylander is obviously worth more, hence Nylander > Pesce. Hall for Larsen wouldn’t have worked fine for the oilers if extra pieces had gone with Larsen. I’m just wondering what else canes fans would offer with pesce


Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
What about pesce, fox and foegele?
What about pesce fox and 2019 1st?


Nylander is a none starter.
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 48
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Feel free to let me know how’d your free up some cap space and improve our d heading into next season
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 49
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Modifié 8 mars 2019 à 21 h 59
Quoting: Goulet
Nothing. You don't trade top line wingers for decent top 4 Dmen. Ask Edmonton how that works out.


Quoting: Jamiepo
@Goulet is absolutely right. Would think a young forward coming back. Foegele or necas.


Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Do you not read the posts? Nylander is obviously worth more, hence Nylander > Pesce. Hall for Larsen wouldn’t have worked fine for the oilers if extra pieces had gone with Larsen. I’m just wondering what else canes fans would offer with pesce


Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
What about pesce, fox and foegele?
What about pesce fox and 2019 1st?



Nylander = $7,000,000
Zaitsev = $4,500,000
Brown = $2,100,000
2nd (2020)
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TOTAL = $13,600,000

FOR

Pesce (50% retained) = $2,000,000
Necas = $900,000
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TOTAL = $2,900,000

THAN SIGN:

Panarin = $10,500,000
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TOTAL = $13,400,000

Panarin - Matthews - Kappy
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Johnson - Kadri - Necas
Moore - Gauthier - Bracco
(March / Petan / Engvall)

Rielly - Pesce
Muzz - Dermott
Rosen - Ozzy
Borgy - Holl
(Lilly / Sandin)

BOOM
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: drewjenks

Nylander = $7,000,000
Zaitsev = $4,500,000
Brown = $2,100,000
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TOTAL = $13,600,000

FOR

Pesce (50% retained) = $2,000,000
Necas = $900,000
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TOTAL = $2,900,000

THAN SIGN:

Panarin = $10,500,000
--------------
TOTAL = $13,400,000




BOOM


Abracadabra
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 56
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Are you saying
Leafs trade Nylander brown Zaitsev for 50% pesce
Then sign Panarin?

Not how I would do things but interesting
8 mars 2019 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Feel free to let me know how’d your free up some cap space and improve our d heading into next season


Kadri, Brown, and Hyman can all go along with Zaitsev. 13.35M to play with along with whatever assets they return.

Nylander improves the third line which improves the team defense and whomever Kadri+ brings back, which would be Pesce at minimum, that improves the backend too.
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 2
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That trade is even as is.

Nylander might be a slightly better player...very slightly, but pesce has the far better contract
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 2
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We agree there I actually love Kadri but he ends up being underutilized and therefor overpaid on the leafs. What about kap for pesce thoughts on value differences?
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
That trade is even as is.

Nylander might be a slightly better player...very slightly, but pesce has the far better contract


Quoting: Bcarlo25
That trade is even as is.

Nylander might be a slightly better player...very slightly, but pesce has the far better contract


You think Nylander for pesce is fair straight up?
What about Kadri? Any interest in him for pesce?
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 5
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You think Nylander for pesce is fair straight up?
What about Kadri? Any interest in him for pesce?


No. Not even close
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 7
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I think Necas is probably a non starter for the Canes.
8 mars 2019 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
That trade is even as is.

Nylander might be a slightly better player...very slightly, but pesce has the far better contract


No he doesn't.

People drastically over-value Pesce ... does he have high offensive upside? (No).

So he's basically reached his potential unless he becomes the best defender in the league.

And he plays on an all star caliber d-core which makes him look better.

Similar to how Hyman looks great playing with Tavares / Marner.
8 mars 2019 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: drewjenks
No he doesn't.

People drastically over-value Pesce ... does he have high offensive upside? (No).

So he's basically reached his potential unless he becomes the best defender in the league.

And he plays on an all star caliber d-core which makes him look better.

Similar to how Hyman looks great playing with Tavares / Marner.


I disagree with your opinion. Here’s something you’ll disagree with....Nylander is not a special player, just a solid second liner
8 mars 2019 à 23 h 25
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Leafs need to shred cap. IMO Nylander for Pesce is fair trade....Leafs save 3m cap space of about the 9m they need to shred.
If Marleau doesn't retire, Nylander might have be traded for his 7m cap relief and maybe just prospects or picks coming back to the Leafs.
8 mars 2019 à 23 h 25
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Pesce plus Julien Gauthier for Nylander and maybe Bracco. Leafs need a big kid with hands and some Jam.
8 mars 2019 à 23 h 48
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I disagree with your opinion. Here’s something you’ll disagree with....Nylander is not a special player, just a solid second liner


Yeah solid second liners get 60+ points in their first two seasons all the time ... especially at 19 and 20 years old.
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Yeah solid second liners get 60+ points in their first two seasons all the time ... especially at 19 and 20 years old.


He was 20 and 21. He was a rookie at 20.

Yes, plenty of guys do that
9 mars 2019 à 0 h 56
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He was 20 and 21. He was a rookie at 20.

Yes, plenty of guys do that


List them ...... the ones who went on to be solid 2nd liners ......
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9 mars 2019 à 17 h 54
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Leafs need to shred cap. IMO Nylander for Pesce is fair trade....Leafs save 3m cap space of about the 9m they need to shred.
If Marleau doesn't retire, Nylander might have be traded for his 7m cap relief and maybe just prospects or picks coming back to the Leafs.


Leafs don't need cap space .... Gardiner, Hainsey and Brown can go .... that's all that's needed.

No need to trade Nylander.
9 mars 2019 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: drewjenks
Leafs don't need cap space .... Gardiner, Hainsey and Brown can go .... that's all that's needed.

No need to trade Nylander for a much less talented player.
9 mars 2019 à 18 h 33
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Quoting: drewjenks
Leafs don't need cap space .... Gardiner, Hainsey and Brown can go .... that's all that's needed.

Do the math. If Kapanen, Johnsson, Marner are to remain Leafs...Leafs are way over cap for next year. It's a given that Gardiner and Hainsey are gone.
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