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TDL moves VGK-NSH-BOS-CLB-DAL-TOR

Créé par: Drw4209
Équipe: 2018-19 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2019
Publié: 27 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Hague, Nicolas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Hague is a promising LHD who may struggle to find a spot on Vegas left side for the foreseeable future. Wings could slot him in as one of their future LHD along with Cholowski and McIsaac. He'd also be someone they could protect in expansion draft along with Cholo and Hronek with McIsaac being exempt
VGK
  1. Green, Mike (2 687 500 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
VGK could use help on their right side and Green is familiar with George McPhee and he'd come at a fantastic cap hit. Whether Green's familiarity with Vegas GM and contending for a cup is enough for him to waive NTC is another question
2.
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Kronwall, Niklas (2 375 000 $ retained)
  2. Nyquist, Gustav
Détails additionnels:
Nyquist's TDL value should be right around a 1st but probably will fall just short of that imo. Since Preds could also use help on their bottom pair, Wings add a solid, experienced vet to make up the difference
3.
DET
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Howard, Jimmy
Détails additionnels:
This is assuming Rask is out long term. Bruins don't want to throw away a potential cup run and while Halak has been solid, they probably would like to add someone in case he falters.
4.
DET
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Vanek, Thomas
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Jackets are in a weird spot being contenders with their own rental pieces they aren't sure what to do with. Most likely they'll stay the course and try for a deep run. They don't have many expendable pieces to be big players in deadline market so they instead opt for a small depth move at minimal cost
5.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Daley, Trevor (1 583 333 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Stars are a bubble team but look like a good bet to make playoffs and could use some depth on D. Daley comes cheap at a great cap hit for a solid vet D and has another year left adding to his appeal.
6.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Jensen, Nick
Détails additionnels:
Leafs opt for a smaller move to help their D rather than spend high end assets for a bigger fish.
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2020
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Logo de BOS
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Logo de DAL
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $61 056 665 $755 000 $1 402 500 $18 443 335 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
759 167 $759 167 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 166 $894 166 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
822 500 $822 500 $
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
6 083 333 $6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 954 545 $3 954 545 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2

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27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 26
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Cbj is Columbus not clb
27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 34
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Cbj is Columbus not clb



Actually either is correct
27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 35
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Boston has very little shot at the Cup this year. Holes in the lineup. TBL in the division. Lost 14 straight to Caps. No, they’ll just ride Halak til Rask is ready. If they miss the playoffs oh well.
27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Boston has very little shot at the Cup this year. Holes in the lineup. TBL in the division. Lost 14 straight to Caps. No, they’ll just ride Halak til Rask is ready. If they miss the playoffs oh well.


I hear ya but not sure Bruins brass would be ok with missing the playoffs or even settling for a one and done. Team is better than you're giving credit for, course they have to get and stay healthy
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27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 41
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Your value is all over the board on this one.

1) There's 0 chance you're getting Hague and a 1st for Green. Look more at a prospect and a 2nd. If you're set on getting Hague, it'll be closer to Hague and a mid round pick instead.

2) Still probably not getting a 1st for Nyqvist and Kronwall. Nyqvist barely cracks Nashville's top 6 when Turris comes back and Kronwall is a bottom pairing dman on that team. Focus more on prospects comeing back if you want the best value.

3) You could probably get a 1st outta Boston for Howard, assuming Rask is out long term. Detroit is said to be asking a 1st rounder and a prospect, I can't see them budging much off that since the goalie market is thin this year. At worst, I'd say a young roster player and a 2nd/3rd. Maybe one of Jakob Forsback Karlsson, Ryan Donato, or Danton Heinen and a 2nd round pick. All 3 guys are young and have yet to establish themselves in the league, or are struggling this year after a good year last year (Heinen) but still have value with their age.

4) Vanek to Columbus might be a god fit. He played there before and had 15 points in 19 games so the familiarity and production is there. Based on Vanek's previous trade history, I'd suggest aiming for a higher pick, like a conditional 3rd rounder, and a mid level prospect. That's generally what he's always been moved for and would still be a good return for Detroit in their current stage.

5) Not sure how much value Daley really has. Haven't watched much of him but when I have seen him he looks slow out there. Shooting for a 3rd might be a bit high, but with you retaining salary that may help. Still not sure on that value though.

6) Jensen for a 3rd seems pretty reasonable. With Toronto's glaring need for a RHD and with it publicly known they're looking for one, you might be able to squeeze a bit more out of them even though Jensen's value isn't much more. Might be able to do a 3rd and a mid level prospect OR just a 2nd round pick (again, that's not his value but with the Leafs publicly looking for a RHD, you can aqueeze more outta them)
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27 janv. 2019 à 18 h 54
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Your value is all over the board on this one.

1) There's 0 chance you're getting Hague and a 1st for Green. Look more at a prospect and a 2nd. If you're set on getting Hague, it'll be closer to Hague and a mid round pick instead.

2) Still probably not getting a 1st for Nyqvist and Kronwall. Nyqvist barely cracks Nashville's top 6 when Turris comes back and Kronwall is a bottom pairing dman on that team. Focus more on prospects comeing back if you want the best value.

3) You could probably get a 1st outta Boston for Howard, assuming Rask is out long term. Detroit is said to be asking a 1st rounder and a prospect, I can't see them budging much off that since the goalie market is thin this year. At worst, I'd say a young roster player and a 2nd/3rd. Maybe one of Jakob Forsback Karlsson, Ryan Donato, or Danton Heinen and a 2nd round pick. All 3 guys are young and have yet to establish themselves in the league, or are struggling this year after a good year last year (Heinen) but still have value with their age.

4) Vanek to Columbus might be a god fit. He played there before and had 15 points in 19 games so the familiarity and production is there. Based on Vanek's previous trade history, I'd suggest aiming for a higher pick, like a conditional 3rd rounder, and a mid level prospect. That's generally what he's always been moved for and would still be a good return for Detroit in their current stage.

5) Not sure how much value Daley really has. Haven't watched much of him but when I have seen him he looks slow out there. Shooting for a 3rd might be a bit high, but with you retaining salary that may help. Still not sure on that value though.

6) Jensen for a 3rd seems pretty reasonable. With Toronto's glaring need for a RHD and with it publicly known they're looking for one, you might be able to squeeze a bit more out of them even though Jensen's value isn't much more. Might be able to do a 3rd and a mid level prospect OR just a 2nd round pick (again, that's not his value but with the Leafs publicly looking for a RHD, you can aqueeze more outta them)


Lol, B’s are not trading any of that for Howard.

If Rask was to be out long term and a problem. Someone like Elliot, Neuvirth, McElhinney, Kinkaid, Kuemper, Talbot could be had alot cheaper and backup/split with Halak til Rask is ready.
27 janv. 2019 à 19 h 0
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Quoting: jonesryan
Your value is all over the board on this one.

1) There's 0 chance you're getting Hague and a 1st for Green. Look more at a prospect and a 2nd. If you're set on getting Hague, it'll be closer to Hague and a mid round pick instead.

2) Still probably not getting a 1st for Nyqvist and Kronwall. Nyqvist barely cracks Nashville's top 6 when Turris comes back and Kronwall is a bottom pairing dman on that team. Focus more on prospects comeing back if you want the best value.

3) You could probably get a 1st outta Boston for Howard, assuming Rask is out long term. Detroit is said to be asking a 1st rounder and a prospect, I can't see them budging much off that since the goalie market is thin this year. At worst, I'd say a young roster player and a 2nd/3rd. Maybe one of Jakob Forsback Karlsson, Ryan Donato, or Danton Heinen and a 2nd round pick. All 3 guys are young and have yet to establish themselves in the league, or are struggling this year after a good year last year (Heinen) but still have value with their age.

4) Vanek to Columbus might be a god fit. He played there before and had 15 points in 19 games so the familiarity and production is there. Based on Vanek's previous trade history, I'd suggest aiming for a higher pick, like a conditional 3rd rounder, and a mid level prospect. That's generally what he's always been moved for and would still be a good return for Detroit in their current stage.

5) Not sure how much value Daley really has. Haven't watched much of him but when I have seen him he looks slow out there. Shooting for a 3rd might be a bit high, but with you retaining salary that may help. Still not sure on that value though.

6) Jensen for a 3rd seems pretty reasonable. With Toronto's glaring need for a RHD and with it publicly known they're looking for one, you might be able to squeeze a bit more out of them even though Jensen's value isn't much more. Might be able to do a 3rd and a mid level prospect OR just a 2nd round pick (again, that's not his value but with the Leafs publicly looking for a RHD, you can aqueeze more outta them)


I guess we just have to agree to disagree. Mike Green is playing extremely well, he'd be a huge get for Vegas and has another year left if you weren't aware. Red Wings record with and without Mike Green in the lineup is staggering, his impact has been pretty substantial. A 1st is easily the starting point for him if he was a rental. With another year and half his cap retained that almost doubles the value. Instead of giving up two 1st's, Knights probably prefer to part with a good prospect that they don't really have room for atp

Nyquist has borderline 1st round value in most people's opinions and he's better and would play ahead of Kevin Fiala or Colton Sissons or Austin Watson or Calle Jarnkrok and possibly Craig Smith as well. Kronwall has been pretty solid, tons of playoff experience, he has value, enough to close the 1st round value gap on Nyquist imo.

Boston wouldn't go that far and give up a 1st, think they'd go with a lesser/cheaper option if the Wings held at a 1st on Howard
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29 janv. 2019 à 21 h 41
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There are nuances one could nitpick, but these are well thought out and explained. Rare to see on here, so, kudos!
 
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