In what world did Nylander and his AHL-level game become a major bargaining chip?

Not really worth it. Nylander is being heavily overpaid, Dubas has said he isn't trading him either. I would say Liljegren, 1st, Zaitsev, and a F prospect for Pietrangelo Stevens and a 5th. Should be a solid offer think both teams would agree. @Chopper02 @AndrewColvin91

If doing it in the upcoming off-season, I dont think Blues would even need to include the 5th or Stevens, but it's definitely better than the Nylander offer considering we have plenty of right wingers in the system already

I would rather get a LW if it were anything, but Toronto doesn't have a good LW Prospect worth trading Pietrangelo for.

he has 18 assists in 20 games not sure what AHL level you are talking about.

Laine since December 1st: 4g, 6a
Nylander since December 6th: 1g, 6a without the benefit of training camp + 2 months of hockey

So, clearly laine would similarly be a terrible asset for winnipeg to use in a trade. Based on your logic, the Jets would need to add to a Laine-Kapanen deal because Kapanen is making less money and has 5 goals and 7 assists over the same time period

Get real.

Hoping for LTIR aside, overpay the cap and short one on the roster, Ferland seems impractical for the Leafs to obtain. Kasimuir in net?

you don't need 23 that's the max you can have 18 skater and 2 goalies, Anderson in net then there your LTIR again. just trying to add some heavy hockey.

No he doesn't?

You're trying to trade a guy who just got paid and sucks ass for a top RD in hockey lmfao - And comparing Laine to Nylander shows how naive you are (or just a homer).. Laine been potting 30+ for 3 years now and is a top goal scorer in hockey. Good luck trading Nylander for a top dman, glad a blind squirrel found a nut on Wednesday and he got 3 apples.

My goodness you are thick.

I obviously don't think Nylander > Laine....who...by the way...is up for his raise this offseason. Think he signs for less than $7m? I guess if he goes quiet for 20 games next year while making $9m+ he's immediately worthless too.

THE POINT....since it needs to be spelled out for you...is that making a comment that "Nylander sucks ass" based on a 20 game sample size instead of a 3 year sample size is absolutely and utterly idiotic when discussing a 22yr old who missed the first two months of the season.

Matt Murray was sporting a 4.07 GAA and .876 save percentage after the first two months of the season....by your standard he's a junk goaltender then and forever because a 2 month window overshadows anything done prior or anything reasonably expected to be produced in the future.

What else you got to justify your asinine comments?

funny how in some see him as old and washout and you have him sounding like he is a Norris trophy winner. The only reason I making that deal is Gardner sucks ass and we need help on D if he was 10% reliable I wouldn't even think of it.

My asking price is Petro and a bottom 6 forward for Zaitsev, Johnsson, Liljegren and a 1st

Done Done Done

I would like a little bit better of an offer tbh. For what Pietrangelo brings to the table. Maybe another conditional pick.

Nylander doesn't have anywhere near the sample size (nor 2 rings) to justify your comparables. The fact you are comparing his worth to Matt Murray and Patrick Laine is idiotic. But keep on hoping you can flip him for Pietrangelo

You are acting as though Nylander has lit the lamp so far in his career... and the fact you are weighing the option of whether you want to trade him for AP is absurd - 100 times out of 100 you make that deal.

well...that would be very short sighted then....trading a 22yr old winger with tons of promise straight up for a 28yr old defenceman with only one more year left on his deal and the likelihood that he'll be looking for a big deal at 30yrs old as a renewal...one which the Leafs likely wouldn't be able to accommodate. But sure...I'm absurd for thinking further than 1.5 years out.

Jakub Vorachek
Nathan MacKinnon
Jack Eichel
Corey Perry
Mark Scheifele
Nikita Kucherov
Matt Duchene

and many others.....know what they have in common? They put up similar stats to Nylander over their first 3 years. Would you trade any of them in their early 20s for 1.3 seasons of a vet #1 d-man?

I think Pietrangelo is fantastic...don't get me wrong...but you're hating on the Leafs/Nylander without any credible insight to back you up



You are once again proving your inability to comprehend simple english here. I thought I spelled it out for you in my last post but I guess not....

I am not comparing any of Nylander, Murray, Laine to each other....I'm using your trash opinion of Nylander and showing you how ridiculous it looks if you apply the same logic to other players. If you don't like Nylander...that's fine, nobody here needs you to. But if you want to go spout off about how other people's opinions are absurd...I'll hold the mirror up so you can see how your theory looks when applied to other players.

Anything else? I'm guessing the next reply probably misses the point again and will ramble on about how I know think Nylander is as valuable as MacKinnon.

Nylander is worth 2 pucks and a wooden hockey stick lol

You compared trading 3 different players that did or are going through a rough patch. It's incomparable to show Murray/Laine going through rough patch (the latter being injured as well) and what their trade value is (not to mention the different position/skill set and that nobody even fathomed moving them) than to a young player who just got paid. And for every player you mentioned there's 100 that don't pan out. On top of the, I'm willing to bet the aforementioned list you compiled never had a season (surrounded by as much talent as Nylander to boot) where they averaged .33 points per game (time will tell on that one)... But once again, godspeed if you think Nylander and a 2nd nets you Pietrangelo. Not sure why you even want to trade your superstar young talent for a rental, but that's a different topic.

Your inability to comprehend any aspect of this thread is embarrassing

The only thing I’m comparing is how your ‘logic’ holds up when compared to other players in similar circumstances ...and it holds up rather poorly.