I see what you're going for, but I personally would not do this. Dumba is too important for us. Take out the 2nd and I'd probably change my mind though.

Yes, this is a great idea, but the price is a little too stiff for Minnesota, in my opinion, as @Icegirl says. I would settle for my original trade, which was Spurgeon, Greenway and the second for Nylander, Borgman or Rosen and a fourth, but could be talked into Gardiner instead of the prospect -- especially since Gardiner is from Minnesota. I wouldn't ask for Dumba because I'd want Fenton to be happy, too.

Dumba is the centre of the trade. No Dumba, no trade. He may not even be healthy for the playoffs this year and who knows if his pectoral injury will affect his shot or game when he returns. Just remember that you have to give up a lot to get a lot. And Nylander would be huge for Minny and I think Gardiner would be a good replacement for Dumba on the opposite side. He would most likely flourish away from the spotlight in TO.

Why would the Wild do this? Gardiner is going to be a UFA in the summer. Wild aren't trading Dumba, Greenway and 2nd rounder for Nylander. If they really wanted Gardiner in the summer sign him. If there is too much cap on the team, then you trade another player. That's how you maximize return, not trading full value for UFA and then hoping you sign him.
For instance during the summer....sign Gardiner as a UFA, trade Dumba for Nylander, and then you get to keep the cap friendly and the very promising Greenway.

Gardiner is already flourishing in the spotlight and I agree he would be a good fit for Minnesota. My point is, we don't have to be pigs and say Dumba or no deal. In my opinion, Spurgeon gives us almost as great a chance to win the Cup and that extra $800k+ gives additional flexibility. But all of this is moot because I don't think Dubas trades Nylander during the season.

Why would the Wild do this? Gardiner is going to be a UFA in the summer. Wild aren't trading Dumba, Greenway and 2nd rounder for Nylander. If they really wanted Gardiner in the summer sign him. If there is too much cap on the team, then you trade another player. That's how you maximize return, not trading full value for UFA and then hoping you sign him.
For instance during the summer....sign Gardiner as a UFA, trade Dumba for Nylander, and then you get to keep the cap friendly and the very promising Greenway.

this trade has been made so many times and the only fans it seems to be happy with it are leaf fans. why would the wild trade a defenseman who is probably a 50-70 piont player for a center(yes i get wild desperate need is a young center ) but it makes no sence for the wild to trade dumba. i dont see a deal between the leafs and wild if it involves dumba. there should only be 2 players who shouldnt be save and its dumba and granlund. but even granlund i could see being traded.

How are the Wild doing with that offence and with Dumba? Just look at the Johansen/Jones trade. I'd say Jones was better than Dumba at that point and still is in my opinion and he got traded for a player that isn't as good as Nylander or at least if Nylander lives up to his potential. But that trade worked out well for both teams. The Wild desperately need help up front and are fairly deep on the blue line and Leafs are the opposite. The trade works well for both teams in my opinion but I'm sure there's no chance it ever happens.

the jones trade i thinknis different Nashville is and was completly loaded with top4 or top talent defenseman if the wild trade dumba that leaves sprugeon as the top rd with no proven rd to come in. i get the wild arent a very good team this year but ill go back to the same idea that its trading the same point person for another that just doesnt help the wild as they dont have that perfect replacement for dumba. Nashville had the replacement and there top 4 d is still insane. i think the wild just need to continue to suck and try and draft a high talent prospect. (with more then 3 points during his draft year)

I see your point. And as i said, I really don't see either GM pulling this trade off realistically but it's fun to dream up possible trades and i really do think this would work out well for both teams now and in the future.

yeah id be really upset if it happened but id be happy our gm finally made a move. i think i like kapanen also might be a smaller move and cheaper future cost maybe anyways have a good one

The draft pick could be conditional on the Wild resigning Gardiner and the leafs could give them permission to negotiate with him before the trade. If he doesn't resign, the Wild get a Leafs 2nd rounder and if he does, the Leafs get theirs. Doesn't have to be 2nd rounders either. Either way, you have to give up a lot to get a lot and Nylander would instantly become the Wild's best offensive player.[/quoter e]

Let'a halt this fantasy that a contending team like the Leafs are going to allow an important player like Gardiner to negotiate with another team. So the Leafs are telling Gardiner, you're not needed, and then if the Wild and Gardiner DON"T the Leafs have to welcome back an unwanted player. This never happens. Do other teams regard 20 goal 40 assist Nylander their best offensive player?

this trade has been made so many times and the only fans it seems to be happy with it are leaf fans. why would the wild trade a defenseman who is probably a 50-70 piont player for a center(yes i get wild desperate need is a young center ) but it makes no sence for the wild to trade dumba. i dont see a deal between the leafs and wild if it involves dumba. there should only be 2 players who shouldnt be save and its dumba and granlund. but even granlund i could see being traded.