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Pens-Hawks deal going out on a limb

Créé par: Watty1
Équipe: 2018-19 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 18 déc. 2018
Publié: 18 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
PIT
  1. Crawford, Corey
  2. Saad, Brandon
Détails additionnels:
Hawks get younger in and save on the cap which opens up flexibility and jumpstarts a rebuild.
CHI
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. Pearson, Tanner
Détails additionnels:
The Penguins are still in their winning window and Saad is an upgrade on Pearson (he is also a Pittsburgh native). Murray's injuries and inconsistency are proving too costly for the Pens and so they move him for 1 year of Crawford. Even if Crawford retires, then Pittsburgh can use the cap flexibility while rolling with DeSmith/Jarry. Aston-Reese is used as a sweetener to get Saad given Pearson's struggles this season.
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18 déc. 2018 à 13 h 56
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Maybe if Chicago retains 50% on both, but even then probably not. Without considerable retention or taking a bad contract back (Lucic, etc) Chicago is the only team paying Saad that $6M.

If you retain $2M I'll go Pearson and ZAR, just for the hometown boy side of the advertising campaign. Nix Crawford.
18 déc. 2018 à 14 h 11
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Maybe if Chicago retains 50% on both, but even then probably not. Without considerable retention or taking a bad contract back (Lucic, etc) Chicago is the only team paying Saad that $6M.

If you retain $2M I'll go Pearson and ZAR, just for the hometown boy side of the advertising campaign. Nix Crawford.


So basically hawks end up paying 6 mil still (4 for Pearson, 2 retained) while getting ZAR and a terrible Pearson. No thanks.
18 déc. 2018 à 14 h 19
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So basically hawks end up paying 6 mil still (4 for Pearson, 2 retained) while getting ZAR and a terrible Pearson. No thanks.


Wouldn't think that they would do it, even for a second. But there is no was the Pens (or any cap slammed team) are having Saad with a $6M cap hit, straight (outside a bad contract going back).
18 déc. 2018 à 14 h 41
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Wouldn't think that they would do it, even for a second. But there is no was the Pens (or any cap slammed team) are having Saad with a $6M cap hit, straight (outside a bad contract going back).


And trading Saad for two bums is an even dumber concept. Saad has scored more at even strength than everyone on the Pens that isnt Sid, Malkin, Kessel, and Guentzal. Pearson has been garbage since 2014 and is on pace for 16 pts while ZAR is a nobody bottom 6'er. Comparing Saad to lucic is a pretty good testament to your lack of hockey knowledge here tbh. Would never do Saad for Pearson and ZAR straight up two awful players for much much better player
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18 déc. 2018 à 15 h 17
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Hard pass as the pens. You speak of injury prone Murray but how many games has Crawford played this last year and this year? Pearson has improved in every statistic with the pens since being traded and ZAR is a solid role player. While Saad has been good he isnt future 10+ year starter, decent second liner and a role player good. Thats even if you throw in 1 year of a beat up crawford, and ignoring the cap situation in pittsburgh. Awful trade for the pens.
18 déc. 2018 à 15 h 18
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Wouldn't think that they would do it, even for a second. But there is no was the Pens (or any cap slammed team) are having Saad with a $6M cap hit, straight (outside a bad contract going back).


I’m not saying this trade should happen. But Pearson is a bad contract coming back.
18 déc. 2018 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: Zetsubonokami
Hard pass as the pens. You speak of injury prone Murray but how many games has Crawford played this last year and this year? Pearson has improved in every statistic with the pens since being traded and ZAR is a solid role player. While Saad has been good he isnt future 10+ year starter, decent second liner and a role player good. Thats even if you throw in 1 year of a beat up crawford, and ignoring the cap situation in pittsburgh. Awful trade for the pens.


Pens probably do this. I'm not GMJR, BUTT... I could see this happening.
18 déc. 2018 à 17 h 24
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hard pass from the penguins. We don't want 34 year old Craford and we aren't giving up a young goalie who has been lights out in the playoffs for him.
Nor do we want to cough up Pearson and ZAR for Saad.
Pearson has been a decent player since coming over to the penguins. 4 goals in 17 games. That's 8 goals in 34 games if doubled. Saad has 9 goals in 33 games. The difference isn't worth ZAR.
On top of it, Saad is already playing with elite talent so that's about the best you are going to get out of him. Pearson is building chemistry and has room to improve.
 
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