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Toronto Defence rebuild

Créé par: jassan28
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 août 2018
Publié: 20 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Brooks, Adam
  3. Brown, Connor
  4. Grundström, Carl
  5. Sandin, Rasmus
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2279 500 000 $69 133 333 $2 550 000 $4 550 000 $10 366 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2

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20 août 2018 à 15 h 36
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Jesus christ, please no..
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20 août 2018 à 15 h 38
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The Leafs would have to carry over all bonus money into next year. Then would do you jettison if you want to sign the big three. So I think cap wise it; not workable.
Dumba deal could work for both teams. But Faulk isn't that special. You've forced Hainsey to the 7th Dmen and Faulk certainly isn't know as been stout defensively.
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20 août 2018 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: palhal
The Leafs would have to carry over all bonus money into next year. Then would do you jettison if you want to sign the big three. So I think cap wise it; not workable.
Dumba deal could work for both teams. But Faulk isn't that special. You've forced Hainsey to the 7th Dmen and Faulk certainly isn't know as been stout defensively.

I agree, I got greedy with this AC-GM for Right handed D men.
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20 août 2018 à 15 h 44
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Good luck pulling Matt Dumba out of the Wilds of Minnesota. It will take a better package than that including the 1st rounder in 2019.
20 août 2018 à 15 h 46
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also i do not see nylnader signing for 4.5 mill. Min is 6 probably pushing towards 7.
on your trades here. in 2019-20 you will have 23 mill ( not including less for bonus overages) for 11 players. 2 are named matthews and MArner who will eat probably around 17-18Mill.
Leaving 6 mill for 9 more players.
proabably 4mill after getting proper value on the nylander contract
20 août 2018 à 15 h 57
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Good luck pulling Matt Dumba out of the Wilds of Minnesota. It will take a better package than that including the 1st rounder in 2019.


While I agree that Dumba would be impossible to get (I personally dont want him in Toronto) that package is overpayment from Toronto because we would be giving up on 4 NHL caliber prospects (one of them recent 1st rounder), NHL player and two other picks..
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20 août 2018 à 15 h 57
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I agree, I got greedy with this AC-GM for Right handed D men.


Thanks for acknowledging the "greed". IMO this "RHD to the Leafs" isn't greed but it's a damn silly obsession for many Leaf and non Leaf fans. ANY RHD to the Leafs at any cost seems reasonable to some fans.
You're on the path to being cured, now that you recognize the RHD obsession.happy
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20 août 2018 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: SammyT_51
While I agree that Dumba would be impossible to get (I personally dont want him in Toronto) that package is overpayment from Toronto because we would be giving up on 4 NHL caliber prospects (one of them recent 1st rounder), NHL player and two other picks..


I see what you mean since the revised trade proposal's package of prospects is now a bit over the top. I think the right balance would be a bit less quantity and more quality - maybe Brown, Grundstrom and a 1st or 2nd rounder. Dumba is in theory a top-2 d-man now, and is under contract for 5 years.

Why don't you want him in Toronto - assuming he was available at some not too crazy price? Dumba seems like a really nice young piece to solidify Leafs defense for many years.
20 août 2018 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: RoadRunner72
I see what you mean since the revised trade proposal's package of prospects is now a bit over the top. I think the right balance would be a bit less quantity and more quality - maybe Brown, Grundstrom and a 1st or 2nd rounder. Dumba is in theory a top-2 d-man now, and is under contract for 5 years.
Why don't you want him in Toronto - assuming he was available at some not too crazy price?


I would start from the last thing you mentioned and it is why I dont want Dumba. While I like his game a lot he is not so good in his own zone, he drives the game and is solid offensively (one of the best shooters), but Toronto does not really need offensive defender since they got now Gardiner and Rielly plus Sandin and Liljegren in the system who are going to be hopefully pretty solid. We more defensive defenders who are cheap but reliable. Also cap space would be problem after signing Matthews and Marner. Since Dumba is basically their no1 guy in Minnesota it would likely take Nylander to get Dumba since Minnesota would definitely prefer Nylander than prospects and picks. Quality beats quantity as you stated.
20 août 2018 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: palhal
Thanks for acknowledging the "greed". IMO this "RHD to the Leafs" isn't greed but it's a damn silly obsession for many Leaf and non Leaf fans. ANY RHD to the Leafs at any cost seems reasonable to some fans.
You're on the path to being cured, now that you recognize the RHD obsession.happy

I think any NHL fan would agree the Leags are one elite RHD away from being a Cup contender roster. Unless Zaitsev plays like Niskanen, the Leafs should seriously target a Righty
20 août 2018 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Jesus christ, please no..


Hey, do me a favor and look at my team post "Game Theory." I'd like your opinion.
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20 août 2018 à 17 h 31
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Thanks for acknowledging the "greed". IMO this "RHD to the Leafs" isn't greed but it's a damn silly obsession for many Leaf and non Leaf fans. ANY RHD to the Leafs at any cost seems reasonable to some fans.
You're on the path to being cured, now that you recognize the RHD obsession.happy


Yeah, I'll admit I'm on that list, although mine is a "middling-cheap" RHD obsession.

Hey, do me a favor and look at my team post "Game Theory." I'd like your opinion.
20 août 2018 à 18 h 59
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Toronto doesn't need a Dman like Dumba!!! They've got enough offensive minded Dmen. Trade for a stay at home, hard hitting defender that can cover for Gardiner or Reilly. Someone like Hamonic, or maybe even Connor Murphy (who should be cheaper to acquire).
20 août 2018 à 19 h 10
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Wah bad, try Nylander, Leivo, 1st if u want dumba
20 août 2018 à 19 h 14
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Toronto has already started rebuilding the defence. It’s called drafting and developing. Don’t listen to the haters. Our team is already better defensively for this season. Prospects will be rotating in and no more Jvr or bozak. Things will be good.
20 août 2018 à 19 h 15
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Quoting: er58
Wah bad, try Nylander, Leivo, 1st if u want dumba


Dumba would be a free agent in 5 years, if he was signed for 8 years the deal would make sense 1 for 1 as Nylander is a 70+ point player
20 août 2018 à 19 h 17
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Toronto has already started rebuilding the defence. It’s called drafting and developing. Don’t listen to the haters. Our team is already better defensively for this season. Prospects will be rotating in and no more Jvr or bozak. Things will be good.


Timothy Liljegren is the biggest optimism for the future, Sandin can easily become a 5/6th D man, but it's only a matter of time before Gardiner and Hainsey leave making Rielly the only Veteran to tend up the young guns.
20 août 2018 à 20 h 41
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Timothy Liljegren is the biggest optimism for the future, Sandin can easily become a 5/6th D man, but it's only a matter of time before Gardiner and Hainsey leave making Rielly the only Veteran to tend up the young guns.


Ummm Ozhiganov??? That’s who I’m excited to see.

Zaitsev and Reilly will both have enough experience to hold the fort. Ozhiganov and Zaitsev do have a lot of pro experience they just lack nhl experience. I still think the khl experience is an asset.
20 août 2018 à 20 h 42
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Ummm Ozhiganov??? That’s who I’m excited to see.


Just heard about him this summer, how is he and what type of player would you compare him to?
20 août 2018 à 21 h 24
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Just heard about him this summer, how is he and what type of player would you compare him to?


Hard to say, he’s a big guy lays big hits hard shots and a sweet pair of mitts. I do not follow khl . I can only go by the videos I’ve seen online and what I’ve read.

Here’s what he brings for offence
https://youtu.be/BOeMJvo1FyQ
https://youtu.be/btVdV-EJ2K4

He’s a strong fast skater good gap control and loves to push a guy wide and lay big hit. Hopefully he can convert his game to the small rink.
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21 août 2018 à 3 h 2
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Hey, do me a favor and look at my team post "Game Theory." I'd like your opinion.


Will do!
21 août 2018 à 3 h 6
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Hard to say, he’s a big guy lays big hits hard shots and a sweet pair of mitts. I do not follow khl . I can only go by the videos I’ve seen online and what I’ve read.

Here’s what he brings for offence
https://youtu.be/BOeMJvo1FyQ
https://youtu.be/btVdV-EJ2K4

He’s a strong fast skater good gap control and loves to push a guy wide and lay big hit. Hopefully he can convert his game to the small rink.


Quoting: jassan28
Just heard about him this summer, how is he and what type of player would you compare him to?


What he brings is toughness on the backend with smart offensive game. I would compare him to Doughty in terms of playing style (not that high ceiling of course) from what Ive seen in KHL matches last year.
 
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