I agree. Pacioretty is one of those players that teams want but aren't willing to overpay for. I think the trade is going to be similar to the Spezza, or more recently the E. Kane trade. A conditional 2nd (1st if he resigns) and some sort of B prospect.

I would love to see paches play with EDM. I think he would be a good fit there.

This doesn’t happen as Patches won’t agree to an extension with them. He has made it clear where he wants to go.

According to my proposal, it would then be Strome, Maksimov, a 2nd and a 3rd. I’d give that up for a year if Pacioretty, and potentially playing with McDavid or Draisaitl over the course of the year would sway his decision in favour or EDM. Chiarelli is under a lot of pressure to make the playoffs this season. So I can see him making a play for Patches

Agreed, MTL will be lucky to get a 1st that isn’t conditional of him re signing.

Where does he want to go?

Florida

Habs fan here. I can see that trade happening with a little tweak. Pacioretty (2.25M$ retained or 50%) + MTL 6th round pick '20 for R.Strome + K.Maksimov + EDM 1st round pick '19.

Just the fact that a team is willing to retain salary raise the value of the player in the trade. I think Habs add the late pick combined with the retained salary and EDM drops the 3rd pick and make the first round pick not conditonnal. Gives EDM more options ($$) to add at the deadline.

Nice deal for both sides. What do you guys think?

Yes please! Nice trade if it could be done. Not like Patch has a NTC-NMC or anything so who care where he wants to go. Florida knowing he wants in will try to steal him for nothing from the Habs.

Not worth it if its unknown if hes willing to resign, I think MTL would be happy getting Strome, Makimov, 2nd, 3rd. If he resigns then the the 2nd turns into a first. Added bonus for MTL if he resigns, all while MTL is still getting a good return, and protection for EDM if he doesnt resign

Do you see those type of conditionnal picks happening often? No they're still pretty rare and reserve for very risky situations , particularly at the trade deadline or for erratic type players...EH HUM*evander kane*EH HUM. If the deal happens between now and the start of the season, no way Bergevin accept (at least, no way he SHOULD accept!) a conditonnal draft pick (if the player resign). That's not how it goes and it won't change just because Pacioretty had a bad season last year. 5 great seasons where you're constantly in the top 15 NHL scorers followed by one bad season where everything fell off for your team does not hurt your value all that much and is not considered "risky" for the team getting him. It's pretty close to the Matt Duchene scenario last year.

Duchene had 2 seasons left on his contract. If that was the case for Pac Edmonton would be more inclined to give a non conditional 1st. If MTL wanted a non conditional 1st, it was have to be for much less. What about Caggulia, 2019 1st for Pacioretty %50 retained. That’s probably the only way MTL gets a guaranteed 1st.

Lol, no. There's no way they retain any salary to help a playoff team land Pac's without getting a first in return. It's so funny how people **** on a player that they want to acquire so bad. It's a weird tactic, isn't it? The only argument people have is "he had a bad season last year, bla bla bla" Duchene had 1 bad season and 2 average ones before being OPENLY asked to get traded. He have only 1 30 goal season where Pacioretty has 5, he only have 2 60+pts season where Pacioretty has 5. Duchene's at 0.73pts a game and Pacioretty's at 0,72pts a game. Duchene has only played 2 playoffs games in the past 8 seasons, Pacioretty has 38. Duchene's a -83 career wise, Pacioretty's at +36. They're only 2 years appart. Should I say more? I'm not talking BS here, I stated facts, not opinions.

Yes, they're pretty common component when the trade includes an expiring contract.

No, no, no - it goes like this: Lucic + 2019 1st for Pacioretty.

Straw man.

On an expiring contract, exactly, which is at the trade deadline, like I explicitly wrote in my message. Thanks for confirming the point I was making. Since he has a full year left, it's not and it's never been seen as an expiring contract needing draft pick protection. Stop trying to make up arguments to lower a player value in order to obtain him for cheaper than you should.

It could be argued that any contract with less than 1 year left is an expiring contract, i.e. he can be re-signed at any time but hasn't, therefore the contract is "expiring".



More straw-man from you. Dude, get your **** together. Everybody on this thread is being reasonable but you.

If you read my multiple answers to this thread, You'll find out that I was in board with the propose move. I just suggested a little tweak because for a rebuilding team, you need to get a first round pick and righfully so considering the player that you're trading away. I am not being unreasonable at all, my arguments (facts) are valid wheter you like it or not. I must admit, though, that it got a little out of hand lol.

And your answer for my arguments (all facts taken from hockeydb, nhl.com and capfriendly.com) that proves my point entirely litterally was an insult. People who can debate (which this site is all about) will accept and dismiss some points other makes and try to explain why they think what others are saying is not correct in their own opinion...but people who are out of arguments come back with insult, like you did.

Didn’t s*** on him at all. Actually the opposite. I’d give up quite a bit for 1 year of Max. I think he’d be a great fit on the left side with Draisaitl. But you have to be realistic. Why do you think the Karlsson trade is taking so long? Of course he’s the best Off. Dman in the game, but it’s also because teams don’t want to give a boat load of assets for 1 guaranteed year of a player. Not comparing Max to Karlsson, in terms of talent, but both have 1 year left on their deals. More so in Pacioretty’s case, a team isn’t going to give a 1st, plus a roster player, plus a prospect.