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Creative dealing for Stone / Ryan

Créé par: CaptJosef
Équipe: 2018-19 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 9 mars 2018
Publié: 9 mars 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Flyers give Hart, Allison, a year (at least) in the AHL. Vorobyov and Myers get one more year their too. Frost, Ratcliffe, and Strome stay in juniors one more year. Ultimately the Flyers cap space is fine. The Flyers can buy out Ryan's final year or two if they need extra room but should be fine regardless pencilling in re-signing the Flyers prospects to a combination of long term and bridge deals.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
1975 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Ryan, Bobby
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Mark Stone
OTT
  1. Laberge, Pascal
  2. MacDonald, Andrew
  3. Rubtsov, German
Détails additionnels:
2018 1st round pick (PHI)
2.
PHI
  1. Comtois, Maxime
Détails additionnels:
2018 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Bunnaman, Connor
  2. Simmonds, Wayne
Détails additionnels:
2019 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
Rachats de contrats
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2378 000 000 $62 160 833 $0 $4 645 000 $15 839 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 4
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 2
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
962 500 $962 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
680 833 $680 833 $ (Bonis de performance107 500 $$108K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
975 000 $975 000 $
DG, AG
UFA - 3
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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9 mars 2018 à 8 h 34
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Yep, something like Ottawa trade could be worked out. Ottawa might have a feel if Stone is going to sign long term in Ottawa. I think he's a potential UFA after two more seasons, so if Ottawa is going full rebuilt....Flyers have some desirable young pieces. Good thought.
9 mars 2018 à 8 h 46
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Quoting: palhal
Yep, something like Ottawa trade could be worked out. Ottawa might have a feel if Stone is going to sign long term in Ottawa. I think he's a potential UFA after two more seasons, so if Ottawa is going full rebuilt....Flyers have some desirable young pieces. Good thought.


Couldn't disagree more. 1) Stone will be re-signed this summer to a long term deal. 2) I'll take Ryan at 7.25 for 4 years over Macdonald at 5 for 2 years, and that's saying a lot. Ryan can at least contribute. 3) That leaves a potentially late 1st rounder, and two forward prospects who aren't even PPG players in the juniors in their draft+2 years for our 25 year old PPG NHL power forward.

Not intentionally trying to sh*t on this proposal but it's not a good deal for the sens and if the sens made this trade, I would immediately lose whatever hope I have left in this franchise (there's currently not much).
9 mars 2018 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: MelnykOut
Couldn't disagree more. 1) Stone will be re-signed this summer to a long term deal. 2) I'll take Ryan at 7.25 for 4 years over Macdonald at 5 for 2 years, and that's saying a lot. Ryan can at least contribute. 3) That leaves a potentially late 1st rounder, and two forward prospects who aren't even PPG players in the juniors in their draft+2 years for our 25 year old PPG NHL power forward.

Not intentionally trying to sh*t on this proposal but it's not a good deal for the sens and if the sens made this trade, I would immediately lose whatever hope I have left in this franchise (there's currently not much).


I agree i think. If the sens sell off stone i think they do better. The one thing i disagree with is ryan. Both guys dont produce but 5mil for 2 years vs 7.5 for 4. Thats math. I get ryans more productive but neither guy really helps and if you choose ryan in 2 years he'll be even worse and you'll still be paying him.
9 mars 2018 à 14 h 8
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I think Konecny would have to be included in the Stone deal. Maybe even one of Morin or Myers. MacDonald is a good cap dump going other way for Ryan
9 mars 2018 à 15 h 16
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I think Konecny would have to be included in the Stone deal. Maybe even one of Morin or Myers. MacDonald is a good cap dump going other way for Ryan


They can keep Stone if Konecny has to be included.
9 mars 2018 à 15 h 17
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I want nothing to do with that horrific Ryan contract.
9 mars 2018 à 15 h 18
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Why are we adding to Simmonds? Simmonds alone should be able to get a 1st and a decent prospect.
9 mars 2018 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: Racer243344
They can keep Stone if Konecny has to be included.


You wouldn't give up Konecny for Stone?
9 mars 2018 à 19 h 18
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I do not understand the PHI/ANA trade. Why trade a player averaging 30 goals a season over the past 4 seasons for a single prospect? He is also on a team-friendly contract that most teams should be able to afford if they want to. Simmonds should net a good roster player, high-level prospect, and a 1st round pick.
9 mars 2018 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: JSG
I do not understand the PHI/ANA trade. Why trade a player averaging 30 goals a season over the past 4 seasons for a single prospect? He is also on a team-friendly contract that most teams should be able to afford if they want to. Simmonds should net a good roster player, high-level prospect, and a 1st round pick.


Simmonds is definitely worth more than Nash IMO.
10 mars 2018 à 12 h 10
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Mark Stone isn't available and he will get closer to 7 years $49 million then your offer.
21 mars 2018 à 0 h 21
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Quoting: Chopper02
You wouldn't give up Konecny for Stone?


Not with the way Konecny has been playing this year.
21 mars 2018 à 7 h 58
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Not with the way Konecny has been playing this year.


That's crazy. Stone is a complete player and young. He's worth just about anyone not named Provorov.
21 mars 2018 à 16 h 34
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That's crazy. Stone is a complete player and young. He's worth just about anyone not named Provorov.


No its not, Stone's a great player but Konecny is younger and has already scored 20 goals as a 21 year old. Not to mention Stone is due for a huge pay raise this offseason.
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