I think a rebuild is in order cause some of these contracts (Toews & Seabrook) are going to flounder this team and Kanes prime into the ground

Pens take that deal everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Caps say hell yes, or at least better say hell yes.

I'd honestly be talking with WAS about what they'd give the Hawks for taking on Orpik too. Could allow them to make another trade @ the TDL and could be worth something for dropping that cap hit.


Yeah PIT would definitely do this. I'd be hoping to get more as a Hawks fan. AA's on a good contract and plays a 200 foot game.

Yeah, it would probably be a slightly better return for Art. I'm not as in tune with PIT's roster and the young player(s) they'd be willing to give up. If it was only draft picks, maybe 2 seconds then (similar to Shaw trade). My only thought is does being 29 (with a slight injury history) and 4 more years at 4.5 M hinder that return? Not sure.

As for WSH, I don't mind the idea of being on the other end of a "Bickell + Teuvo trade", however with Orpik under contract through next season, sending out a D with both Seabrook and Orpik next year would terrify me.

What's the condition on the Kempny trade? I personally believe he is worth more than a 4th to a lot of teams in the league, especially contenders at the deadline. He is a very nice 3rd pairing/depth piece for a contender with D issues.

I'd have to think that Kero and Franson pull way more than a 5th. While yes they both passed through waivers there are often GM to GM relationships as to why they do. GMs don't want to "step on each others feet" if they don't HAVE to. There are many decent players passed through waivers every year that don't get claimed but then maybe are later traded.
Now with all that said I don't envision getting a 2nd round pick in return, but maybe a young prospect and a pick.

I'd hope Stan wouldn't trade Anisimov for a 2nd and 3rd. He is on a very reasonable contract and is a solid 2nd line center or great 3rd line center. Players like that usually go for a lot more on the trade market. The hawks will also need to fill his center spot with someone, which they currently don't have in the system.

Appreciate the feedback. All trades here were obviously tilted to the side of what the Hawks can definitely get, opposed to stretching them out for unrealistic returns. Hoping it would show a glimpse of what this could turn into.

I imagined the condition as a 4th that becomes a 3rd if Toronto makes it to the 2nd round and he plays in 75% of the games, or something of that nature.

It really seems to me that Kero is blocked in our organization because he isn't a Top 9 C, and Q often prefers veterans or "tough to play against" agitators on his bottom line. He'd be stuck in Rockford anyway, due to the fact Sikura is coming, and Kampf has shown more speed and skill than Kero has. Franson was obviously brought in because of the question marks on D to begin the year, but pleasant surprises have made him expendable. If we could get a 4th for the two, I'd be happy.

Art would almost certainly bring back a relatively high-end prospect with a mid-round pick, but as I alluded to above, I'm not exactly sure what prospects a team like PIT would be willing to give up, so draft picks were for show. Like I said though, turning 30 in May, 3 full seasons left on his deal after this year, and injury concerns these past two seasons... not sure his value is quite as high as we would like it to be.