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As crazy as this sounds

Créé par: Rodzikhockey93
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 8 janv. 2018
Publié: 8 janv. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Cap jumps to 80M, Sign Matthews to 10.5Mx8Yrs and Let Gardiner Walk
2019-20 Lineup
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
JVR-Tavares-Brown
Marleau-Kadri-Kapenen
Grundstrom-Brooks-Leivo

Reilly-Dahlin
Dermot-Zaitsev
Borgman-Rosen
#7D
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
76 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Dahlin, Rasmus
3925 000 $
55 500 000 $
810 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
    1st overall
    ARI
    1. Liljegren, Timothy
    2. Marner, Mitchell
    Détails additionnels:
    2018 1st
    2.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
    3.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2019
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2020
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2021
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2275 000 000 $69 869 166 $2 550 000 $4 632 500 $5 130 834 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    C
    UFA - 1
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 6
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 7
    2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    925 000 $925 000 $
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    850 000 $850 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    863 333 $863 333 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2

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    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 31
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    ARZ if they get the #1 OA pick, is not trading it for ANYTHING less then Auston Matthews...even then leafs might have to add and that's not a shot at Matthews!
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    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 34
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    First of all Rod: Dahlin is a left handed Dman, and while incredible, thinking he can break in as a first pairing defenseman is to say the least optimistic! BUT. . . .If it is determined that Arizona, gets the first overall. . . .flip Jake Gardiner for Liljegren, and make the deal! As a Leaf fan, it totally frees up some of our impending cap concerns, allows us to consider bringing in in 18/19, (Tavares)19/20, (Doughty/Karlsson) UFA either at center, or defense, and let's do it! I have NO idea why you would move Hainsey at this point for simply a pick.

    2019 potential D
    Reilly - Liljegren
    Dahlin - Zaitsev
    Dermott - Oziganov
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    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 37
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    Quoting: scarbrow21
    ARZ if they get the #1 OA pick, is not trading it for ANYTHING less then Auston Matthews...even then leafs might have to add and that's not a shot at Matthews!


    Quoting: scarbrow21
    ARZ if they get the #1 OA pick, is not trading it for ANYTHING less then Auston Matthews...even then leafs might have to add and that's not a shot at Matthews!



    AND THATS WHY ARIZONA WILL'BE IN HOUSTON LONG BEFORE THEY BECOME RELEVANT! SMART THINKING!
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 38
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    Quoting: Doug7004
    First of all Rod: Dahlin is a left handed Dman, and while incredible, thinking he can break in as a first pairing defenseman is to say the least optimistic! BUT. . . .If it is determined that Arizona, gets the first overall. . . .flip Jake Gardiner for Liljegren, and make the deal! As a Leaf fan, it totally frees up some of our impending cap concerns, allows us to consider bringing in in 18/19, (Tavares)19/20, (Doughty/Karlsson) UFA either at center, or defense, and let's do it! I have NO idea why you would move Hainsey at this point for simply a pick.

    2019 potential D
    Reilly - Liljegren
    Dahlin - Zaitsev
    Borgman - Dermott


    Dear Doug...changing Gardiner for Liljegren doesn't make it better it makes it worse AND if you COULD (you can't) get Dahlin in YOUR (impossible) scenario...why WOULDN'T you pair him with the other stud sweedish D-man.

    Guarenteed though you're not getting Dahlin unless Matthews is going the other way. He's a franchise defensman, he's 17, and he has the potential (and is being compared to) of Erik Karlsson and Niklas Lidstrom...
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 42
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    I don't know why Arizona (or whoever does this). A team that gets # 1 pick likes to flaunt it....as hope for selling trades. Trade Hainsey, why? Bracco, Liljgren and injured Grunstrom, may not be NHL ready. Really want to sign JVR long term. And I think he'll get a better offer from some team. Not sure of JTs motivation to join this team,
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 44
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    Matthews will cost more.

    so will tavares and you can't do 8 years

    so will the number 1 pick.
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 44
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    AZ Hangs up when matthews isnt offered for it
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    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: scarbrow21
    Dear Doug...changing Gardiner for Liljegren doesn't make it better it makes it worse AND if you COULD (you can't) get Dahlin in YOUR (impossible) scenario...why WOULDN'T you pair him with the other stud sweedish D-man.

    Guarenteed though you're not getting Dahlin unless Matthews is going the other way. He's a franchise defensman, he's 17, and he has the potential (and is being compared to) of Erik Karlsson and Niklas Lidstrom...


    First of all you don't pair two rookie, primarily offensive Dmen together, PERIOD!!! This wasn't my post, but I've got problems with the right/left side breakdown and as such wouldn't be giving up Liljegren, in the deal. ( Leafs likely to have 7 NHL ready LD players and prospects even without Dahlin)! Any comparisons to Karlsson and/or Lidstrom are impressive, as is he, (could it be he's Swedish), but Marner has been compared OFTEN to P. Kane, Gardiner to Coffey (light), and you're getting back a first as well! A little perspective, although we both know the above will never happen! Besides, you should spend all your energy, praying for the right lottery ball!
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: scarbrow21
    Dear Doug...changing Gardiner for Liljegren doesn't make it better it makes it worse AND if you COULD (you can't) get Dahlin in YOUR (impossible) scenario...why WOULDN'T you pair him with the other stud sweedish D-man.

    Guarenteed though you're not getting Dahlin unless Matthews is going the other way. He's a franchise defensman, he's 17, and he has the potential (and is being compared to) of Erik Karlsson and Niklas Lidstrom...


    First of all you don't pair two rookie, primarily offensive Dmen together, PERIOD!!! This wasn't my post, but I've got problems with the right/left side breakdown and as such wouldn't be giving up Liljegren, in the deal. ( Leafs likely to have 7 NHL ready LD players and prospects even without Dahlin)! Any comparisons to Karlsson and/or Lidstrom are impressive, as is he, (could it be he's Swedish), but Marner has been compared OFTEN to P. Kane, Gardiner to Coffey (light), and you're getting back a first as well! A little perspective, although we both know the above will never happen! Besides, you should spend all your energy, praying for the right lottery ball!
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: scarbrow21
    Dear Doug...changing Gardiner for Liljegren doesn't make it better it makes it worse AND if you COULD (you can't) get Dahlin in YOUR (impossible) scenario...why WOULDN'T you pair him with the other stud sweedish D-man.

    Guarenteed though you're not getting Dahlin unless Matthews is going the other way. He's a franchise defensman, he's 17, and he has the potential (and is being compared to) of Erik Karlsson and Niklas Lidstrom...


    First of all you don't pair two rookie, primarily offensive Dmen together, PERIOD!!! This wasn't my post, but I've got problems with the right/left side breakdown and as such wouldn't be giving up Liljegren, in the deal. ( Leafs likely to have 7 NHL ready LD players and prospects even without Dahlin)! Any comparisons to Karlsson and/or Lidstrom are impressive, as is he, (could it be he's Swedish), but Marner has been compared OFTEN to P. Kane, Gardiner to Coffey (light), and you're getting back a first as well! A little perspective, although we both know the above will never happen! Besides, you should spend all your energy, praying for the right lottery ball!
    8 janv. 2018 à 15 h 53
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    Quoting: palhal
    I don't know why Arizona (or whoever does this). A team that gets # 1 pick likes to flaunt it....as hope for selling trades. Trade Hainsey, why? Bracco, Liljgren and injured Grunstrom, may not be NHL ready. Really want to sign JVR long term. And I think he'll get a better offer from some team. Not sure of JTs motivation to join this team,


    Pal: I do agree with you, on Liljegren, that it will be "at least"another year before he can be expected but when ready he will be top 4!
    8 janv. 2018 à 17 h 18
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    No way Arizona trades #1 overall
    8 janv. 2018 à 22 h 27
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    Rodzikhockey 93

    I just returned home from work and read your post As Crazy as this sounds. As a Die Hard Maple Leaf fan your proposed moves are worse than crazy but are abolutely insane. Your 3 moves do more damage to the Leafs than all the years that the Leafs were owned by Harold Ballard.

    Here are my thoughts as follows:

    1. Your proposal of the Leafs giving up Marner, Liljegrn and 2018 1rst round pick for Arizona's 1rst overall pick is a joke. Mitch Marner is a young player who has elite, I repeat elite, elite skating, passing and vision skills and is a franchie player all by himself. Liljegren is a young player who has elite, I repeat elite skating and passing skills and is a potential number 1 offensive defenceman and the type of player the Leafs having been dreaming to draft for years. The Leafs first round pick in a tremendous June 2018 draft year may land a potential game changer player even if it is a later first round pick. There is no guarantee that the No.1 will even be a game changer player.

    Now why would the Leafs give up all this for the No.1 player who may not even be as good as Marner. You should google Mitch Marner awards won in last year of junior hockey to get an idea on his upside to the Leafs. You are totally out to lunch if you think this is a good trade for the Leafs.

    2 Why would you trade Hainsey who is having a career year and helping Reilly have a break-out and career year and a player the Leafs are using as a mentor to their good young defenceman for a second round pick when the Leafs already have 2 second round picks. This trade makes no sense and is really something that a Marc Bergavin who is the most incompetent GM in the NHL might dream up.

    3.Why would you trade Matt Martin who has tremendous character and is loved by his teammates and actually protects the Leafs star players for a 4rst round pick? I also actually believe that John Tavares may be prepared to sign a 1 year deal with the Leafs for the 2018-2019 because he is a good friend of Matt Martin. You need to understand that the chemistry of a team is very important and Matt Martin is a total team player.

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