Gonna have to do better than that to get Kane. A worse expiring ufa, an average prospect and a late 1st and 3rd does not get Kane.

Edit: especially if signing Kane.

Yup Arizona id definitely making that trade.............................................NOT.

OEL is better than any current WSH dman, you do realize that don't you?

OEL is most def not any better than Niskanen, Orlov, or Carlson. I consider them pretty equal. Carlson is a sled sometimes but he is in the Norris talk this year. DuClair won't be back so Burakovsky replaces him. Grubauer will be AZ's number 1 goaltender.

You do realize they are trading Kane in a rebuild so they want draft picks and prospects. Eller can replace a hole for them up the middle after they go fire sale mode.

OEL is younger and put up bigger numbers while playing on worse teams than any one of those guys. No I would't consider them equal.

Either way your valuations are way off. Grubauer is nice but not nearly worth as much as Caps fans think. Burakovsky is nice but not star by any metric. Orpik? You do know if WSH wants to get rid of Orpik they'll have to pay another team to do so. He has negative value.

Duclair is producing decently for a disastrous Arizona team. OEL is a legit top pairing dman and they have downgrade a 2nd rounder for a 3rd rounder? They already have Raanta who is similar to Grubauer so not sure why Grub would be any better. Orpik won't push anyone out of their top 4 frankly would only play ahead of Schenn if anything on his offside. Burakovsky won't miracously make them better when they losing all that ability on the back end in OEL.

But whatever, to each their own. I would stake my life savings that Arizona would not do this trade though. Seeing what Duchene got and what EDM got for moving Taylor Hall, there is literally no basis for making sense of this. Literally nothing.

We are not rebuilding. We don't have a hole up the middle. We can get better packages for Kane than this so the sabres hang up the phone immediately. Eller is not useful. A late first does not make him useful. A very average prospect does not make him useful. You know what's useful? A skilled aggressive winger that's on pace for 70+ points.

oel isnt better than orpik haha ....but seriously hes very good but the talent gap between him aand carlson or nisk isnt that big but i do agree he is talented and bettter just not a lot better..



you guys are awful and i have no idea what you guys are doing but to say we arent rebuliding isnt 100% correct ...you guys arent good you have some talent and need to learn how to win with that said caps dont want kane nor does that package get the caps kane

Yeah i think people misunderstand what i meant by it. When i say better I take all aspects into consideration. Not just ability against ability. OEL is better than Carlson because he's younger and still signed for another year. Talent wise I'd still give it to OEL but yes Carlson is getting close. Niskanen is a good dman, don't get me wrong but he is 31 years old. Everyone was bitching about Subban 27yo for Weber 31yo. OEL is 26. Plus is better in all aspects than Niskanen. Nothing against the guy but OEL play almost any teams top pair. Niskanen not as much.

Once again both guys are phenomenal players. This isn't a slight to either of them.

no i complete;y respect what you mean.... it would cost a ton to get him plus idk if he wants to leave az either seems comfortable and confident in the process there