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Leafs 2019-20 what I think will happen

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Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 déc. 2018
Publié: 28 déc. 2018
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Description
There are going to be no major trades done at the 2019 trade deadline or in the summer 2019. The team is going to be improved internally through the development of prospects. The leafs are going to follow the mindset of Detroit's management over the last 25+ years that saw them make the playoffs for 25 straight years and win 4 cups.

With that said Marleau is not going anywhere. He is a great mentor for the kids and can still play albeit on the third or fourth line next year.
Hainsey is going to be resigned to a 1 year deal and if he ends up as a scratch he is still valuable as a mentor to the kids on defense kids.

Matthews and Marner get signed for a combined 20 million per for 6 years at which time Tavares contract is up and is 11 million can be used to resign Matthews and Marner again. I used 11 and 9 but it could 11.25 and 8.75 etc. but the total will be 20 mil between them.

Rosen will get the promotion to the big team. I think his play with the Marlies has earned it. Ozhiganov continues to improve as he adjusts to the NHL and has earned another contract. Also I think that Sandin and Liljegren can use another year with the Marlies with large minutes to develop their craft.

As much as five million will be allocated to sign Kapanen and Johnsson to two or three year deals. I did 3 years deals at 3 and 2 million per year but again that can be more or less for each as long as the total is 5 million.

Trevor Moore has earned a new contract and a promotion to the big team.

Lindholm is a great utility guy and I think will be resigned but as a UFA it will be for more than a million.

Unfortunately that leaves no money for Gardiner - some team will pay big for him as a UFA and good for him. He deserves a good payday. I would really love for him to be able fit into the plans. Travis Dermott is fully capable of taking over for Gardiner.

The 23 spot will be filled by Marincin or Ennis if they can sign either of them for a million. I am afraid as a UFA someone will pay a bit more for Marincin. I am not sure that Ennis has earned more yet and is good as an extra veteran forward for the leafs and will be the one signed. Also the team has quality defense kids that can be called up to fill in without waiver issues.

The 2020-21 leafs will have Marleau's 6 million plus the increase in cap space to focus on defense improvements if the kids Sandin and Liljegren are still not ready to jump in. Also Dermott will need to be resigned and he will get a nice raise.

Added - Jan 2, 2019 for additional support for Matthews and Marner numbers

My opinion is that Matthews for 8 years at 11 million (13.25% of 83mil) per is fair (4 years RFA at 8.5mil (10.25% of 83mil) and 4 years UFA at 13.5mil (16.26% of 83mil) = 11mil average)
My opinion is that Marner for 8 years at 9 million (10.84% of 83mil) is more than fair (4 years RFA at 7.5 mil (9.03% of 83mil) and 4 years UFA at 10.5 mil (12.65% of 83mil) = 9mil average)

Historical Contracts
John Tavares – 5.5 mil as RFA starts 2012-13 (9.16% of 60mil), 11 mil as UFA starts 2018/19 (13.83% of 79.5mil)
Jonathan Toews – 6.3 mil as RFA starts 2010-11 (10.60% of 59.4mil), 10.5 mil as UFA starts 2015-16 (14.70 of 71.4mil)
Patrick Kane – 6.3 mil as RFA starts 2010-11 (10.60% of 59.4mil), 10.5 mil as UFA starts 2015-16 (14.70 of 71.4mil)
Tyler Sequin – 5.75 mil as RFA starts 2013-14 (8.94% of 64.3mil, 9.85 mil as UFA starts 2019-20 (11.86% of 83mil)
Steven Stamkos – 7.5 mil as RFA starts 2011-12 (11.66% of 64.3mil, 8.5 mil as UFA starts 2016-17 (11.64% of 73mil)
Nikita Kutcherov – 4.76 mil as RFA starts 2016-17 (6.52% of 73mil), 9.5mil as UFA starts 2019-20 (11.44% of 83mil)
David Pastrnak – 6.67 million per for 4 years RFA and and 2 years UFA starts 2017/18 contract(8.89% of 75mil)
Nathan Mackinnon – 6.3 million per for 4 years RFA and 3 years UFA starts 2016/17 (8.63% of 73mil)
Mark Scheifele – 6.125 million per for 4 years RFA and 4 years UFA starts 2016/17 (8.39% of 73mil)
William Nylander – 7.5 million per for 4 years RFA and 2 years UFA starts 2018/19 (9.43% of 79.5mil)
Jack Eichel – 10 million per for 4 years RFA and 4 years UFA starts 2018/19 (12.57% of 79.5mil)
Vladimir Tarasenko – 7.5 million per for 4 years RFA and 4 years UFA starts 2015/16 (10.50% of 71.4mil)
Connor McDavid – 12.5 million per for 4 years RFA and 4 years UFA starts 2018/19 (15.72% of 79.5mil)
Leon Draisaitl – 8.5 million per for 4 years RFA and 4 years UFA starts 2017/18 (11.33% of 75mil)
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2383 000 000 $77 325 699 $0 $0 $5 674 301 $
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28 déc. 2018 à 8 h 57
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I don't think players like Matthews and Marner would take 6 year deals. They'd probably say We'll either take 8 years at more money or 4 years which brings them right to UFA like Tavares did. I don't think Toronto has any leverage in the situation so they probably have zero chance at getting a 6 year deal on these players unless for some stupid reason the players decide they want that term. I don't see much of an advantage to it, so the best outcomes for the players is probably 8y or 4y.
28 déc. 2018 à 9 h 5
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Quoting: Breakaway
I don't think players like Matthews and Marner would take 6 year deals. They'd probably say We'll either take 8 years at more money or 4 years which brings them right to UFA like Tavares did. I don't think Toronto has any leverage in the situation so they probably have zero chance at getting a 6 year deal on these players unless for some stupid reason the players decide they want that term. I don't see much of an advantage to it, so the best outcomes for the players is probably 8y or 4y.


I agree with your point. I don't see the Leafs doing anything less than 6 years since that will just be a cap issue in 4 years to resign them. I also do not expect them to get any more than 20 million combined per year if signed for 8 years and if they sign for 8 years the leafs will try to keep Tavares contract room for them by not using it in years 7 and 8. The advantage to the players to do 6 years they will get a raise years 7 and 8 but they take the risk of getting hurt and not getting anything for years 7 an 8.
28 déc. 2018 à 9 h 23
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I agree with your point. I don't see the Leafs doing anything less than 6 years since that will just be a cap issue in 4 years to resign them. I also do not expect them to get any more than 20 million combined per year if signed for 8 years and if they sign for 8 years the leafs will try to keep Tavares contract room for them by not using it in years 7 and 8. The advantage to the players to do 6 years they will get a raise years 7 and 8 but they take the risk of getting hurt and not getting anything for years 7 an 8.


Right, but thats a gamble no player would take. I could see them taking 4 years because they'd make a lot more money, but if they can't take 4, it's pretty much going to be 8.

Matthews will get 11.5m-13m and Marner somewhere between 10M-11.5M. Matthews compares to McDavid and Marner to Patrick Kane. Adjust for inflation and cap going up and you're looking at probably having to do the higher end of those ranges. Kane and Toews didn't take any discount and Matthews and Marner are better players. If you think they'll take a discount because Toronto "needs them to" they should just turn around and say "well, I'm not taking a discount. If you're so worried about money why did you spend 11M on Tavares less than a year ago? Oh, you think you're giving him some of the money that should have been allotted to me? I'll hold out." If Marner and Matthews hold out Toronto would be one of the worst teams in the league so management would literally be bent over and forced to give in. The only way this doesn't happen is if Matthews and Marner decide to take team friendly deals to win, but that typically doesn't happen much so it's a long shot.
28 déc. 2018 à 9 h 49
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Right, but thats a gamble no player would take. I could see them taking 4 years because they'd make a lot more money, but if they can't take 4, it's pretty much going to be 8.

Matthews will get 11.5m-13m and Marner somewhere between 10M-11.5M. Matthews compares to McDavid and Marner to Patrick Kane. Adjust for inflation and cap going up and you're looking at probably having to do the higher end of those ranges. Kane and Toews didn't take any discount and Matthews and Marner are better players. If you think they'll take a discount because Toronto "needs them to" they should just turn around and say "well, I'm not taking a discount. If you're so worried about money why did you spend 11M on Tavares less than a year ago? Oh, you think you're giving him some of the money that should have been allotted to me? I'll hold out." If Marner and Matthews hold out Toronto would be one of the worst teams in the league so management would literally be bent over and forced to give in. The only way this doesn't happen is if Matthews and Marner decide to take team friendly deals to win, but that typically doesn't happen much so it's a long shot.


Kane and Toews signed UFA deals and if that is where Marner and Matthews were at this point I would agree with you but that is not the case, If they sign a 8 year deal then that's 4 years of RFA and 4 years of UFA the leafs are paying for. Matthews 4 years RFA at 8.5 million and 4 years UFA at 13.5 million = 11 million average. Marner 4 years RFA at 7.0 million and 4 years UFA at 11 million = 9 million average (Kane and Toews were 6.3 mil RFA and 10.5 Mil UFA - Tavares was 5.5 mil RFA and 11 mill UFA - Kucherov 4.76 mil RFA and 9.5 mil UFA)

McDavid in my opinion is just overpaid for a RFA/UFA contract coverage.
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28 déc. 2018 à 10 h 8
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Right, but thats a gamble no player would take. I could see them taking 4 years because they'd make a lot more money, but if they can't take 4, it's pretty much going to be 8.

Matthews will get 11.5m-13m and Marner somewhere between 10M-11.5M. Matthews compares to McDavid and Marner to Patrick Kane. Adjust for inflation and cap going up and you're looking at probably having to do the higher end of those ranges. Kane and Toews didn't take any discount and Matthews and Marner are better players. If you think they'll take a discount because Toronto "needs them to" they should just turn around and say "well, I'm not taking a discount. If you're so worried about money why did you spend 11M on Tavares less than a year ago? Oh, you think you're giving him some of the money that should have been allotted to me? I'll hold out." If Marner and Matthews hold out Toronto would be one of the worst teams in the league so management would literally be bent over and forced to give in. The only way this doesn't happen is if Matthews and Marner decide to take team friendly deals to win, but that typically doesn't happen much so it's a long shot.


I agree with you regarding Matthews and I agree with @Gauss that it will be a $20 MIL split. Where I disagree is Marner being worth so much. He is on pace for another typical 20 to 25 goals which he has done his whole career. His huge point total increase is his assists and playing with an elite super star line mate who has a current shooting percentage of 17.6 %. Put him back with Bozak and JVR then you would see Marner's point totals take a huge hit.

I am a Leaf fan so maybe I have a negative bias after seeing inflated contracts given to Phaneuf, Kessel, Clarkson, etc. I look at players like Gaudreau, Pastrnak, Sheifele, Monahan, Landeskog, MacKinnon at the $6 - $7 MIL window and would trade Marner for any of them 1 for 1. Hearing Marner being expected to make over $10 MIL sounds like Darren Dreger, Craig Button, etc or a horribly managed team like the Oilers not a successful GM like Yzerman, etc.
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