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3 way CGY-TOR-X team

Créé par: F50marco
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2023
Publié: 14 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Droitier
Position
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Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Assuming:

-Backlund, Hanifin and Lindholm all confirm they won't resign by a certain date. So CGY has to move them to not lose them for nothing.

-Nylander and Toronto won't come to terms on an extension by a certain date so they trade instead of lose for nothing at the end of the year.

-CGY doesn't want a full rebuild but more of a retool so shedding some pending UFA's and getting some picks but also wants a player like Nylander for example. (I know CGY fans, not what I would do but seems where they are trending)

-Toronto wants player X from another team (Lets say Pesce just for example) in exchange for Nylander but that team (Carolina) doesn't want Nylander but rather picks, prospects, cap space and maybe a lesser roster player only.

-Pesce and Nylander in this scenario would both sign long term contracts with their new teams.

Assume the "x" value isn't a fleece but not a bad trade either. Average value all around here.
Transactions
1.
CGY
    Whichever team for x value.
    ANA
    1. Lindholm, Elias (2 400 000 $ retained)
    2.
    CGY
      Whichever team for x value.
      ANA
      1. Hanifin, Noah (2 400 000 $ retained)
      3.
      CGY
        Whichever team for x value.
        ANA
        1. Backlund, Mikael (2 400 000 $ retained)
        4.
        TOR
          3 way with Carolina (For example only)
          5.
          CGY
          1. Pesce, Brett
          2. Teräväinen, Teuvo (2 650 000 $ retained)
          CAR
            3 way with Toronto
            6.
            CGY
              3 way with Toronto/Carolina
              7.
              CGY
                3 way
                CAR
                  Assortment of picks and prospects from each of the Lindholm/Hanifin/Backlund deals. Potentially something from CGY's pool also.

                  Once again, Carolina is just an example here. Could be another team with what Toronto wants but only wants picks and prospects back instead of Nylander.
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                  TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                  2283 500 000 $81 464 032 $0 $1 062 500 $2 035 968 $
                  Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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                  10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
                  AG, AD
                  NMC
                  UFA - 8
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                  7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
                  C
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                  UFA - 6
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                  6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
                  AD
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                  UFA - 1
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                  4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
                  AD, AG
                  NTC
                  UFA - 4
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                  3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
                  C, AG, AD
                  UFA - 2
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                  5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
                  AD, AG
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                  UFA - 2
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                  863 333 $863 333 $
                  AG
                  RFA - 1
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                  2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
                  AG, AD, C
                  RFA - 1
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                  925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                  AD
                  RFA - 2
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                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  AG, C
                  UFA - 1
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                  863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                  AG, C
                  RFA - 2
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                  825 000 $825 000 $
                  AD
                  UFA - 2
                  Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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                  6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  NTC
                  UFA - 8
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                  4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
                  DD
                  UFA - 3
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                  6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
                  G
                  NMC
                  UFA - 3
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                  2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  UFA - 1
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                  1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
                  DD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 1
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                  2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
                  G
                  UFA - 2
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                  3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                  DG/DD
                  UFA - 1
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                  1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
                  DD
                  RFA - 1
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                  775 000 $775 000 $
                  AG, AD
                  UFA - 2
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                  762 500 $762 500 $
                  DG
                  UFA - 1

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                  14 août 2023 à 16 h 13
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                  I'll agree with non playoff teams should be trading their upcoming UFAs. But the Leafs have I believe 8 upcoming UFAs, do they all get traded? Of course not. There is no benefit to the Leafs this year if they are in a win mode to trade Nylander, unless they get immediate equal ice value back in a trade Gee, half the teams in the league in the won't be trading their upcoming UFAs.
                  And with that Nylander trade to the Canes......the Leafs get back two upcoming UFAs. Kinda defeats the purpose of trading Nylander because he's a UFA.
                  14 août 2023 à 16 h 21
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                  Fire J.D. too
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                  Quoting: palhal
                  I'll agree with non playoff teams should be trading their upcoming UFAs. But the Leafs have I believe 8 upcoming UFAs, do they all get traded? Of course not. There is no benefit to the Leafs this year if they are in a win mode to trade Nylander, unless they get immediate equal ice value back in a trade Gee, half the teams in the league in the won't be trading their upcoming UFAs.
                  And with that Nylander trade to the Canes......the Leafs get back two upcoming UFAs. Kinda defeats the purpose of trading Nylander because he's a UFA.


                  So your stance is to let Nylander walk at end of season for nothing? Or do you think they should extend him and have 4 guys making up over 40Mil of the cap?
                  14 août 2023 à 16 h 51
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                  Quoting: PantsOffnJacket
                  So your stance is to let Nylander walk at end of season for nothing? Or do you think they should extend him and have 4 guys making up over 40Mil of the cap?


                  Like so many, you use the "Let them walk". That is absolutely meaningless. The player has the choice of signing wherever he wants.
                  Now I believe the Leafs will make a fair offer to Nylander, but if he decides to sign elsewhere (for whatever reason) that's the nature of UFA.
                  This summer the Leafs had ROR, Accarili, Holl, Scheen "walk" as UFAs. But then they signed Bertuzzi, Domi, Klingberg who "walked" from other teams. Just an exchange of player...like "cap trade"
                  What makes Nylander so special? There are over 100 upcoming UFAs..
                  But to answer you question specifically. I really don't care if the Leafs resign Nylander (or Matthews/Bertuzzi/Domi/Klingberg/Brodie/ Giordano. Lafferty or Samsonov.....all UFAs next summer.
                  I don't think the Leafs (or any team)_ should overpay UFAs. I look at the Leafs will have 9 upcoming UFAs...but more importantly those 9 carry a cap currently of about 43m. As a Leaf fan hoping the GM spends that 43m wisely on whoever....some might be resigned, others won't.
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                  14 août 2023 à 17 h 0
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                  Quoting: palhal
                  I'll agree with non playoff teams should be trading their upcoming UFAs. But the Leafs have I believe 8 upcoming UFAs, do they all get traded? Of course not. There is no benefit to the Leafs this year if they are in a win mode to trade Nylander, unless they get immediate equal ice value back in a trade Gee, half the teams in the league in the won't be trading their upcoming UFAs.
                  And with that Nylander trade to the Canes......the Leafs get back two upcoming UFAs. Kinda defeats the purpose of trading Nylander because he's a UFA.


                  Did you read the description? This was A) under the assumption that they won't be able to get Nylander resigned to a new contract before unrestricted free agency and B) Not necessarily for Carolina's players. I just used Carolina to get the point across. Also mentioned that Pesce would be resigned to the Leafs so they are getting a long term asset in the deal at a cheaper cap than what Nylander will cost them.

                  Secondly, I didn't say anything about having to trade all the pending UFA's. The players involved all happen to be pending UFA's but that was not the point of the post. The point was CGY has 3 UFA's that are probably not resigning. Tor has Nylander who they'll likely have to pay way too much for if they resign and would be better suited distributing that cap throughout the lineup more evenly. I used Carolina just because Pesce's name has been mentioned a few times but like i said, just used Carolina as the example 3rd team who may have what Toronto wants.
                  14 août 2023 à 17 h 4
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                  Quoting: palhal
                  Like so many, you use the "Let them walk". That is absolutely meaningless. The player has the choice of signing wherever he wants.
                  Now I believe the Leafs will make a fair offer to Nylander, but if he decides to sign elsewhere (for whatever reason) that's the nature of UFA.
                  This summer the Leafs had ROR, Accarili, Holl, Scheen "walk" as UFAs. But then they signed Bertuzzi, Domi, Klingberg who "walked" from other teams. Just an exchange of player...like "cap trade"
                  What makes Nylander so special? There are over 100 upcoming UFAs..
                  But to answer you question specifically. I really don't care if the Leafs resign Nylander (or Matthews/Bertuzzi/Domi/Klingberg/Brodie/ Giordano. Lafferty or Samsonov.....all UFAs next summer.
                  I don't think the Leafs (or any team)_ should overpay UFAs. I look at the Leafs will have 9 upcoming UFAs...but more importantly those 9 carry a cap currently of about 43m. As a Leaf fan hoping the GM spends that 43m wisely on whoever....some might be resigned, others won't.


                  So basically making trades is pointless then? Lol Just let all pending UFA's walk and sign other teams UFA's.

                  Also I think we can all agree, Nylander is better than all the players mentioned that were let walk to free agency. They could potentially get better players in return in a trade then to simply let Nylander walk and sign someone else in free agency. There is no guarantee Toronto will be able to sign one of the players they pursue. At least not without overpaying, but then we're right back to the reasoning for NOT over paying for Nylander again.
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