Meier comparable

Créé par: evelutions2

Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2023

Publié: 12 févr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Gaucher

Équipe initiale

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Droitier

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Max. Bonis de perf.

Statut à l’échéance du contrat

Terme restant

McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

Meier is a great player, but he has been one of the most overvalued players on this site for a while now. The likelihood a team trades a first round pick (2023) AND a top prospect for Meier is very unlikely, considering that trades like that rarely happen, I believe only about 4 times during the cap era. Frankly, the likelihood for 2 first round picks in return for Meier is also very low. 2 of the best trade comparables for Meier would be Kevin Fiala and Alex DeBrincat. Fiala has put up 338 points in 473 career games, with most of his time only having 1 really good linemate (until LA). DeBrincat has put up 349 points in 419 career games. Meier has put up 315 points in 447 career games. I’m only really judging their offensive totals here, since their defensive abilities leave something to be desired.

I think Meier is better offensively than Fiala (for now), but not as good as DeBrincat. So whilst both of the trade happened in the off-season, Meier shouldn’t get much more, if any more at all, considering similar production, and somewhat similar contract status at the time of the trade. Fiala had his RFA rights trade to LA for 2022 1st round pick (19OA) and RD prospect Brock Faber (B prospect in my opinion). DeBrincat was traded with 1 year of contract and RFA rights at season’s end (9mil QO) to Ottawa for 2022 first round pick (7OA), 2022 2nd round pick (39OA), and a 2024 3rd round pick (TBD).

Meier is available at a 6mil cap hit this year (3mil if SJ chooses to eat half his salary) but he has a 10mil QO after this season. The 2022 draft was good for the top 4 but nothing to really write home about for the rest of it just yet. The 2023 is expected to be one of the deepest drafts in recent memory, capable of potentially rivaling the 2003 and 2015 drafts. So 2023 first round picks are going to be quite a bit more valuable than 2022 first round picks, with the quality of picks likely being close for a 7-12OA in 2022 around 25-32 in 2023.

Transactions

CAR

Meier, Timo

Détails additionnels:

Overpaying for Meier here due to the difference in off season and deadline prices, but this should be more than enough to get Meier, especially with no retention involved.

SJS

Koivunen, Ville
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

Détails additionnels:

2023 first round pick (likely to be in the 28-32OA range), B prospect with high potential in Koivunen (RW), 2024 2nd round pick, and a 2023 3rd round pick

CAR

O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Based on ROR’s play, he shouldn’t return a first. A 2nd a decent prospect is quite a bit more fair considering his career low year and just coming back from injury.

STL

Drury, Jack
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Drury or Suzuki, whoever the Blues choose between the 2 to be involved.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Ethan Bear: 400 000 $ (18.18%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	73 504 417 $	112 500 $	1 000 000 $	8 995 583 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 2	Jarvis, Seth 894 167 $894 167 $ (500 000 $$500K) AD RFA - 2
Svechnikov, Andrei 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	O'Reilly, Ryan -1 875 000 $-1 875 000 $ C UFA - 1	Necas, Martin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Stastny, Paul 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) C, AG NTC UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 4 820 000 $4 820 000 $ C UFA - 8	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Martinook, Jordan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Raanta, Antti 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
De Haan, Calvin 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Chatfield, Jalen 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Noesen, Stefan 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Pacioretty, Max 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Stepan, Derek 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1		Gardiner, Jake 4 050 000 $4 050 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
Coghlan, Dylan 762 500 $762 500 $ DD RFA - 1		Kase, Ondrej 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD UFA - 1

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12 févr. 2023 à 10 h 6

Jfstompers

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Rejoint: févr. 2018

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I think you get out bid here for Meier. If the best piece you're offering is a 29th pick overall someone beats that. San Jose may get less quantity but they'll get more quality.

12 févr. 2023 à 10 h 13

GMBL

Rejoint: mai 2022

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DeBrincat is a bad example though, he was traded for the 7th OV which is worth 2 1sts+ of the 20-32 variety.

mokumboi et Kyriakos_Grizzly a aimé ceci.

12 févr. 2023 à 10 h 15

SJS2212

Rejoint: juin 2018

Messages: 421

Mentions "j'aime": 225

PPG power forward that is made for the NHL playoffs is a better player and higher value than a 5'8 Debrincat that has never whiffed a non-fake bubble NHL playoff game. You're also not factoring in that deadline prices are always higher than offseason prices because teams are desperate to make the move that puts them over the top with an already good and contending roster.

Also, Debrincat got a 7th overall pick compared to the pick SJS gets being outside the top 20. Don't care what anyone says about depth of draft, a top 7 pick in a weaker draft is always going to be greater than a pick in the 22-26 range in a stronger draft. Meier is going to get the Sharks a 1st, top prospect, and B prospect or they'll hold onto him. It's pretty simple. There are enough suitors that someone will step up and pay the price, especially with SJ retaining 50% this year.

12 févr. 2023 à 10 h 18

mokumboi

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 29,272

Mentions "j'aime": 11,348

That's not an overpay for Meier.

12 févr. 2023 à 10 h 20

Sjbackseatgm

Rejoint: janv. 2023

Messages: 441

Mentions "j'aime": 131

So close, and yet so far..

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