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Bischel Trade Negotiation with MN Wild Fan

Créé par: gopherit
Équipe: 2022-23 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2022
Publié: 23 juill. 2022
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Hey y'all,

Apologies for the intrusion. I'm a MN Wild fan that would LOVE to acquire Bischel since he's a player I really liked pre-draft. So I'm reaching out to see if together, we can come up with some realistic trade packages (if possible). Admittedly, I don't know much about your team's needs nor philosophy besides what I have read from your beat writer on The Athletic, ACGMs, threads, and articles. So I figure I'll start off with some information about my own team, such as which assets are untouchable, unrealistic (ie. untouchable due to other factors), and available. In the hopes that someone would be willing to do the same for Dallas in this thread.

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We are heading into 3 seasons of cap hell due to ~14M in dead cap space; however, expect to remain semi-competitive throughout that time. Really, the biggest concern is ensuring we are in a good enough place 3 years from now that Kaprizov would sign an extension during his prime years instead of looking elsewhere when his current contract is up (either via trade or free agency).

========== UNTOUCHABLES ==========
* Kaprizov = first legit SS in franchise history
* Zucc = Kaprizov's closest friend who'd throw a fit (KK that is) if we ever traded him
* Wallstedt = franchise goalie
* Rossi = potentially the first true 1C in franchise history
* Boldy = Calder contender
* Brodin = one of the best 2-way defensemen
* Yurov = potential first line winger and a fellow Russian that can converse with Kaprizov in his native tongue
* GREEF line = (Greenway, Eriksson Ek, Foligno) identity line
* Dumba = "available" by most fans but I'm way too big of a fan of his to give him up; in fact, I wish we extend him to a 5yr ext @ ~4-5.1M AAV

========== UNREALISTIC ==========
NOTE: Most of the "unrealistic" players are either due to their contract situations or locker room presence
* Hartman = not a true 1C but is outplaying his 3yr contract, locker room guy
* Spurgeon = our captain, underrated defensemen because he's undersized. That being said, I'm not his biggest fan given his contract and physical stature.
* MAF = would be strange to trade him given all that went into acquiring/retaining him
* Middleton = our only big defensemen that we just signed to a 3yr ext.
* Goligoski = veteran offensive defensemen, unrealistic just

========== UNLIKELY ==========
Similar to "unrealistic" but could be moved under the right circumstances
* Gaudreau = coach loves him but he's on an expiring deal
* Jost = traded for during last TDL, it's 50/50 whether Geurin is the kind of GM that'd trade a player after such a short stint
* Merrill = 7th D, physical, signed to a cheap 3yr ext
* Ohgren = #19 pick of 2022 draft
* Faber = shutdown RHD
* Gustavsson = backup goalie we got from OTT for Talbot, perfect goalie to hold us over until Wallstedt debuts

========== PROSPECTS ==========
Players I'm willing to part with UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. I listed their (position, draft pick, draft year, potential, size). I only highlighted prospects that may interest you, as well as the 2022 draft class. And to be clear, I like them all. I'm only providing brief descriptions to save y'all time. Players are ordered according to their mid-season rankings per that Scott Wheeler from The Athletic.
4. Lambos (LHD, #26, 2021, Top 4 D, 6'1") = top LHD prospect, 6'1", 2-way Top 4 D -> player comp. = Ryan Sutter
5. Addison (RHD, #53, 2018, No. 4-5 D, 5'10") = no. 4-5 D with additional PP upside, offensive defensemen, NHL-ready, great skater, undersized (5'10")
6. Khusnutdinov (C, #37, 2020, Top 9 F, 5'11") = strong work ethic, skilled, fast, playmaker, passer > scorer, player comp. = Granlund
7. Peart (LHD, #54, 2021, Top 6 D, 6') = 2-way defensemen, can play LD or RD, high hockey IQ, great skater, Mr. Hockey in MN
8. Beckman (LW, #75, 2019, Top 9 W, 6'1") = hard-shooting, shot-focused winger with a scoring touch, WHL MVP (2020)
10. O'Rourke (LHD, #39, 2020, 3rd pair D, 6') = gritty, rugged, reliable, jack-of-all-trades that can play both LD & RD
12. Daemon Hunt (LHD, #65, 2020, 6-7 D, 6') = strong, good skater, aggressive, put up 39pts in 46g w/ WHL team
16. Hunter Jones (G, #59, 2019, backup G, 6'4") = shows flashes but disappointed last season in the AHL last season
18. Firstov (LW, #42, 2019, Bottom 6 W, 6'1") = scorer, looked great in college but didn't show improvement

## 2022 Draft Class
#19 Liam Ohgren (LW) = swiss army knife, projects as a high-pace, creative middle-six winger, one of the highest floors
#24 Danila Yurov (RW) = not trading
#47 Hunter Haight (C) = 2-way center, improved during season, stand out in dev camp
#56 Rieger Lorenz (LW) = power forward, likely 3rd/4th liner
#89 Michael Milne (LW) = good compete, looked good in dev camp
#121 Ryan Healy (D) = skilled, mobile, poor decision making, stand out in dev camp
#153 David Spacek (D) = overager, PP point man, skating issues
#185 Servoc Petrovsky (C) = smart player, skating issues

Prospects I really like: Faber, Khusnutdinov, Ohgren, Lambos & Peart. I like all other prospects. Only reason I'd be willing to part with Lambos, O'Rourke, Peart, etc. is because they all project to be roughly the same player. They are all roughly 6'. So I'd only be interested in parting with one (or more) of them to get a larger D prospect like Bischel.

========== AVAILABLE ==========
Any player not mentioned above, including prospects. Draft picks (top 10 protected).

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From what I have read about Dallas, (and feel free to correct me) y'all want scorers and high-end defensive depth (prospects). With that in mind, the Wild can mainly fulfill those needs through prospects (or picks, whichever you prefer). For scorers, we really only have Beckman and Firstov. The rest of our forwards either don't project to be goal scorers (Khusnutdinov, Haight, Lorenz, etc.) or are too early to project. As for defense, we are LOADED. In fact, our issue is that we have an over abundance of high-end defensemen. The problem is that they all project to be roughly the same player: roughly 6', great skater, 2-way defensemen, high hockey IQ, play 200ft game, etc. like a Brodin or Ryan Suter.

Lines taken from https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/621744?post_id=3463114
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I've included all players that _might_ interest you so that you can look them up more easily. Again, this obviously wouldn't be the trade package. Just players that you could include in a realistic package.
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23 juill. 2022 à 19 h 36
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No disrespect dude, but Minnesota has enough LHD's prospect and doesn't need another one. If Brackett wanted him, he would have selected him.
23 juill. 2022 à 19 h 38
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No disrespect dude, but Minnesota has enough LHD's prospect and doesn't need another one. If Brackett wanted him, he would have selected him.


It's true we have enough LHD prospects as is. However, I'd want to swap one or two of them for a 6'5" monster in Bischel. It should come as no surprise that our defense improved when we got a bigger guy in Middleton. Cuz the rest of our guys kept getting pushed over. Like I said, I like each D prospect individually. Together, tho, I'm concerned over the lack of size.
23 juill. 2022 à 19 h 43
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It's true we have enough LHD prospects as is. However, I'd want to swap one or two of them for a 6'5" monster in Bischel. It should come as no surprise that our defense improved when we got a bigger guy in Middleton. Cuz the rest of our guys kept getting pushed over. Like I said, I like each D prospect individually. Together, tho, I'm concerned over the lack of size.


Most of our d in jonas brodin, jared spurgeon are under long term contract. Your trading Winger prospect and top C prospect for another LHD? You have to trust judd brackett he has his reason for not wanting him. Jacob Middleton, 3 years. Alex G: no movement for two years. Dumba: rhd: gone after 1 year. Brock Faber: only RHD in our system. I with all due respect saying this that prospects don't get traded for each other. If Minnesota needs more size on d, Guerin will trade for one during season
23 juill. 2022 à 19 h 48
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As a Stars fan I'd be down in swapping Bichsel for Öhgren. They were drafted 18th and 19th respectively and I preferred Öhgren of the two.
23 juill. 2022 à 19 h 55
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The thing that annoyed me is I watched a lot of highlights and did my research on 5 players in the draft for Pittsburgh that would probably be available at 21. The forwards I was looking at was Liam Ohgren and Ivan Miroshnichenko. For the defencemen it was Lian Bichsel, Owen Pickering, and potentially Tristan Luneau. And the literal order it went in was 18.Bichsel 19.Ohgren 20.Miroshnichenko 21.Pickering. Now I’m not mad with having Pickering. But man I was sort of annoyed Dallas drafted Bichsel. But I was laughing cause of the order 4 of them went in
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