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Canucks fans need to stop assuming these players have value

Créé par: ragger_lord
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2021
Publié: 6 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I see a lot of people trading these players and expecting value back... It's not happening, we're going to have to give up assets to move them. Here's what I think it would cost.
Transactions
1.
VAN
ARI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Not a lottery pick but a mid 20s pick... Myers contract is bad, maybe you get away with less by retaining half but that's not very useful.
2.
VAN
ARI
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Honestly maybe even a second or a different cap dump coming back.
3.
VAN
ARI
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Hamonic trades in general are dumb because he has an NTC and has been very clear about wanting to stay in Western Canada.

No one wants a 3rd pair d-man at 3mil. He passed through waivers already. Yes, it was partially due to his vax status but if he was good teams wouldn't have cared.
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Poolman, Tucker (1 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Poolman is probably the only one with value today but 4 years is tough... Maybe you get something of you retain a mil as then his contract is almost all buriable
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1981 500 000 $64 735 659 $648 780 $2 550 000 $16 764 341 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 26
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Also OEL just because he is playing better than last year doesn't mean he his holding up to the value of his deal he is still a dump just not nearly as bad.

Also man I think you're underselling how bad myers is. He still has 3 years left on his deal and genuinely might be the worst player in the league even at the league minimum I think the most they would be able to fetch for him is a 5th.
6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 29
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Also OEL just because he is playing better than last year doesn't mean he his holding up to the value of his deal he is still a dump just not nearly as bad.

Also man I think you're underselling how bad myers is. He still has 3 years left on his deal and genuinely might be the worst player in the league even at the league minimum I think the most they would be able to fetch for him is a 5th.


Yeah I didn't include OEL because he's weird to value and also I see less people trying to trade him.

I don't Myers is THAT bad but I do have it costing us a first to move him which I think it's pretty fair w
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6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 36
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They have value. Just negative value.
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6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 49
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You never know. My Sabres got a 1st, a 2nd and Hagg for Ristolainen. Anything is possible
6 déc. 2021 à 15 h 8
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The problem with these players is more the usage ( and contract) than the player, all are playing higher in the lineup than they should in Vancouver. In the final year of his contract Myers is easily traded after the signing bonus is paid (and I am not a Myers fan at all). Pearson for sure has value. He plays the right way and is quite consistent. Coaches love his type of player. Maybe some retention if traded before the final year, depending on the return, but not negative value. My point is all are tradeable given the right circumstances.....yes even OEL.
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