Im going crazy over here

No.

The first trade is not there in terms of value. Manson is not a great top 4 D

2nd trade is not good too, not enough

and good luck with Matt Murray, who has a very poor season. Murray would have wished to have a season like Andersen had last year

Manson really going far on that rep. If you watched him in the past two years, you would see that he is not the same player and definitely not worth a Nylander- unless you are one of those that think he should be traded for a bag of pucks.

I'm just not sure the value of Andersen is there.

Hes a 5mil UFA to be.

Its the off season and theres Holtbys, Lehners available as UFAs and younger and re-signable now guys like Matt Murrays etc available in trade.

Andersen is good, and definitely not why TOR lost in qualifying, but not sure his value is a 1st, when other options (longer term) at near that salary are available for less or nothing in trade

Blowing up with this iteration of the team needs to start at the very top, with Shannahan, who has been so adamant about this 5 year plan. Well, year 6 just passed with little to show for it. Unfortunately, you might have to sit tight and suffer through another season of Leafs mediocre hockey before significant changes are made, because management can believe in this group all they want, they just don't have what it takes to make a significant impact when the games really start counting.

I always find it comical with these...Leafs fans bemoan Manson for sucking, and apparently everyone overvalues him, but you guys still manage to post a ton of Manson to the Leafs trades on a daily basis. Manson must be one of the most traded for players on this site.