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Marner Trade Feedback

Créé par: Hockeygoalie53
Équipe: 2019-20 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2019
Publié: 19 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
***Decided to fill out the rest of the team and adjust the trade and remove the 2021 1st round pick as it was likely too much of an add***

To start I should mention I don't want to move Pulock, I believe he could anchor the Isles D for years to come, but let's be honest here, Defense is the one spot we are incredibly DEEP down both sides and scoring is what this team needs the most... with that in mind this trade was put together to grab Marner from the Leafs without having to sign him to an offer sheet.... looking for thought and feedback on the value, not so much "I don't want to trade Pulock" or "Toronto won't trade Marner" responses lol

Only did the trade for feedback, so salaries and the team aren't finished.

Rationale:

Isles - They give up a HUGE piece in Pulock, but with Dobson likely to make the team next season, Wilde likely ready the following season, Boychuk not going anywhere because of his contract (though I think it is movable) and Mayfield on an incredibly team friendly deal... the Isles decide to make a blockbuster move and include Pulock in a trade to get Marner.

With Toews progressing like he did last year and taking over the #1 PP unit, the Isles view him as a suitable replacement to grow into the #1 role until Dobson is ready to take that over.

Leafs - They get a #1 RHD to pair with Reilly and anchor their defense and the necessary CAP relief of not having to sign Marner to a large contract.

Admittedly, as an Isles fan who wants Marner, I'm not sure I do this trade, but I feel this is the kind of trade that would need to be done to bring Marner to NY.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
2975 000 $
511 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Marner, Mitchell [Droits de RFA]
TOR
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Ho-Sang, Joshua [Droits de RFA]
  3. Pulock, Ryan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Updated the trade to take out the 2021 1st round pick.
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NYI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $75 885 833 $0 $1 037 500 $5 614 167 $
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
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UFA - 7
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
11 650 000 $11 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 5
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975 000 $975 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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770 000 $770 000 $ (Bonis de performance100 000 $$100K)
DG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
DD
RFA - 3
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4

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19 juill. 2019 à 9 h 59
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Why move assets that have a combined value of more than 4 firsts? At that point, it's actually beneficial for you to offer sheet him.

And even that is a major overpayment for Marner.
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19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 1
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I think Toronto takes it but why not just offersheet the four firsts and keep the known quantity of Pulock? Still believe Bellows has some promise as well but that's not my main point

Dobson should make the team but he's not a top-pair RD out of the gate. You're asking a lot from either Boychuk (who I think can be effective but only play 50-60 regular season games) or Mayfield (good defensively but doesn't generate enough offense)

Sub Mayfield for Pulock and I'd do it. I know he's not the same type of player, but Pulock/Bellows/JHS prob is worth 2 firsts anyway. Otherwise, I'd give up the picks.
19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 2
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As a Leafs fan... I am saying yes to this deal immediately before Lou sobers up and pulls it off the table!!
19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 5
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Why move assets that have a combined value of more than 4 firsts? At that point, it's actually beneficial for you to offer sheet him.

And even that is a major overpayment for Marner.


Two reasons:

1) I don't see Lou submitting an offer sheet, as much as I'd want him to, he's too old school for that. Plus doing it this way we have a few firsts left over to retool the prospect pool.

2) Ho-Sang is likely on his way out anyway, so why not use him as a second piece in a trade for Marner. And Bellows is kind of blocked on the Left side with Lee, Bailey, Beau, dal Colle and Martin all there next year, so he becomes kind of a nice 3rd piece.

I hesitated on adding the 2nd 1st round pick, so in hindsight one of those could be removed and it would still be a fair deal.

Ultimately, I'd rather build a package with Mayfield, but I don't see TOR viewing him as enough for the main piece of a Marner trade.
19 juill. 2019 à 10 h 9
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I think Toronto takes it but why not just offersheet the four firsts and keep the known quantity of Pulock? Still believe Bellows has some promise as well but that's not my main point

Dobson should make the team but he's not a top-pair RD out of the gate. You're asking a lot from either Boychuk (who I think can be effective but only play 50-60 regular season games) or Mayfield (good defensively but doesn't generate enough offense)

Sub Mayfield for Pulock and I'd do it. I know he's not the same type of player, but Pulock/Bellows/JHS prob is worth 2 firsts anyway. Otherwise, I'd give up the picks.


As much as it's been rumored, I don't see Lou actually going through with the OS... he's too old school for that. I also am not convinced Marner would sign one, feel like it would have already happened by now if he was willing to do so.

I'd much rather sub Mayfield, I just don't see TOR accepting Mayfield as the main piece in a Marner trade.

In this scenario you could also keep Leddy (move out Hickey) to eat up some of those minutes while Toews and Dobson grow into the #1 pairing.
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