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Forum: NHLHier à 20 h 44
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zk97</b></div><div>Question for forum users.
With the current order, what do you see your top-10 being for the upcoming draft (using the current order)?

Template:

San Jose Sharks:
Chicago Blackhawks:
Anaheim Ducks:
Columbus Blue Jackets:
Montreal Canadiens:
Arizona Coyotes:
Ottawa Senators:
Seattle Kraken:
Calgary Flames:
New Jersey Devils:


My mock:

San Jose Sharks: Macklin Celebrini
Chicago Blackhawks: Ivan Demidov
Anaheim Ducks: Artyom Levshunov
Columbus Blue Jackets: Cayden Lindstrom
Montreal Canadiens: Zayne Parekh
Arizona Coyotes: Anton Silayev
Ottawa Senators: Carter Yakemchuk
Seattle Kraken: Sam Dickinson
Calgary Flames: Tij Iginla
New Jersey Devils: Berkly Catton</div></div>

I pray Tij falls to SJS second 1st round pick (that behind Celebrini obviously )
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 15 h 48
Sujet: Ryan Warsofsky - Celebrini - Stamkos
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>:laugh Stamkos isn't a 1C anymore, And $7,000,000 in Florida is worth more than $10,000,000 in high tax California. No freaking way is Stamkos playing on the West Coast on the worst team in the NHL.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Seiched</b></div><div>ummmm no, please look at tax rates before you make uneducated statements</div></div>

lol yeah I didn’t care to check till you said this but according to Forbes taxes calculator 10m cal vs 7m Florida =
5.047 California to 4.4m Florida

That would mean 2 years in San Jose at 10m would be equivalent to 3 years in Florida at the suggestion. Still a hard sell for SJS but most people also accept that these millionaire athletes who are smart hire professionals to help get the most back from their taxes so it could be possibly be improved in either state.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 15 h 1
Sujet: Trade them both
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wescam</b></div><div>I think if you are bringing in veteran leadership to speak to this team it needs to be someone who has played at a high level, I do not think I would want either contract with injuries and age but I thought this might be a solution for both</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>to me, if the sens are going to keep an 8 million dollar centre I would rather norris over couture</div></div>

Without being disrespectful or speculative;

I would guess Coutures probability of even playing another 82 games in the NHL are around 40-50%…

If you’re acquiring him for potentially 8m in LTIR cap space and mentoring sure, but he is really battling a tough injury - I would be happy if he can enjoy life outside hockey. If playing risks that; I’d rather him retire than play more games.

However I don’t see a solution for Ottawa here and I think San Jose would rather keep Ferraro + a 2nd (potentially 33rd OA) &gt; Chabot. They invested in Thrun and Shakir; I think Grier is happy with developing both, with Cagoni needing a clear NHL path too. They need more RD not more LD.

I’m worried about Norris’ shoulder and think he needs to more time to evaluate in Ottawa.
Forum: NHLmer. à 11 h 56
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
:mapleleafs

JD Bunkis had an interesting point on the Maple Leafs today.

They’re obviously the most polarizing market in Canada (and easily have a case for the whole league) but more than that, they’re the most fascinating to cover.

Hear the point out (I’m extrapolating from what he said).

They are obviously the most covered, and have so many voices and stories that circulate and they dominate in both social and mass media coverage. But there’s nothing anyone can do because they’re just such a sight.

His example:

Boston is cut and and dry.
Peeke is week to week (LB), he’s out.
He won’t be on the ice.

We’re rotating our goalies. Done.

Toronto..
Nylander is __________ deal with it.
But he’s at practice because _________ .

Matthews isn’t at practice; _________ .

It’s not a criticism but it’s just simply how could you not cover this as a fan or journalist?

If Swayman was missing from practice today, or McDavid wasn’t taking rushes - there would be the same alarm bells.

Which continues (including more extrapolating from JD):

You have Mitch being dubbed both an elite, top winger in the league - as “The Invisible Man”.
Both are true.

And now you have a team who’s going to have to evaluate keeping “The Invisible Man” which means payday, while you have Matthews who has battled adversity and won over the fan base.

There isn’t a more NERVOUS fan base in the league. And that’s why there’s so much coverage.

It’s not an overreaction or over-saturated atmosphere; there’s just simply SO much going on around them week-to-week

yet we can’t even get a Nylander is week-to-week or day-to-day….

Games 3 and 4 arguably will dictate the rest of their run.
They’ve survived losing Game 1 decisively by rebounding in Game2: and they’ve done it without Nylander “and Marner”.
But can they take control on Home Ice.
Because if they can do it, the fan base will go bananas.

If they don’t… the fan base will go bananas… but this way includes booing in your own barn.

EDIT:

Even funnier after JD has a great like 30 minute segment about all this, and after I post this;

Keefe just makes some clear statements on both Nylander (possible for tonight) and Matthews (maintenance as expected) amid all the discourse within the last 2 hours.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 mars à 19 h 33
Sujet: Eklund - Celebrini - Smith
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>This looks very decade-of-darkness Edmonton Oilers. Moving Hertl was very risky in terms of prospect development for the Sharks. Signing Monahan, Duchene, Pavelski, Stephenson, or offer-sheeting Lundell almost needs to happen for the Sharks just to take some of the heat off of Celebrini. Best-case-scenario he's going to be similar to year-one Eichel, but doesn't have the luxury of a O'Reilly type to insulate him. Worst-case he's year-one Jack Hughes without the promise of righting the ship behind the likes of Hischier.

Thoughts on Ceci for Knyzhov and the Pittsburgh 5th? Would be a good partner for Mukhamadullin.</div></div>

EDM could get Knyzhov for free.

Personally I don’t think Ceci is a good partner for Shak. Emberson, but more likely (I’d say it’s 70% chance) Rutta are perfect partners for him.

Shakirs ceiling looks like a PP, PK amazing middle pair guy. Serviceable top pair, potentially a #3 / MAYBE A if he explodes a #2.

But he needs a partner to cook with and I think Rutta or Emberson are better suited. Both will let Muk flourish and Rutta speaks his language as well and seems like a great leader the Sharks are going to keep around.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 mars à 19 h 30
Sujet: Eklund - Celebrini - Smith
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>This looks very decade-of-darkness Edmonton Oilers. Moving Hertl was very risky in terms of prospect development for the Sharks. Signing Monahan, Duchene, Pavelski, Stephenson, or offer-sheeting Lundell almost needs to happen for the Sharks just to take some of the heat off of Celebrini. Best-case-scenario he's going to be similar to year-one Eichel, but doesn't have the luxury of a O'Reilly type to insulate him. Worst-case he's year-one Jack Hughes without the promise of righting the ship behind the likes of Hischier.

Thoughts on Ceci for Knyzhov and the Pittsburgh 5th? Would be a good partner for Mukhamadullin.</div></div>

Yeah I agree the Sharks needs some cushion. But Granlund and Sasha may be utilized in that role (I have him at 3rd and Sasha at 2nd). Grier may give the top two Center rolls to them if they can’t get someone they want. And have Celebrini start 3rd line TOI but get used in OZones and PP1.

I prefer Pavelski and or “Stamkos” if he decides to leave and would sign a 3 year deal in San Jose. Need a real leader to right the ship. Imo this is more important than “cushion” for the players. I don’t personally know if Duchene or Stephenson fit that bill, and same with Sean Mon. Lundell also doesn’t fit that bill at all.

They have money to spend but Grier said he won’t be spending for the sake of spending or any long term deals.

I personally ponder the route of Pavs or Stammer the most because both aren’t 0% chances.


Pavelski,
A) wins a cup and will retire
B) wins a cup and goes anywhere (Dallas or anywhere with the bag)
C) doesn’t win a cup and resigns in Dallas
D) doesn’t win a cup and resigns with a contender
E) doesn’t win a cup and resigns with anyone
F) doesn’t win a cup and retires

I think option B is the only route for Cap to return to San Jose. And that’s a 10% imo (Dallas to win the cup AND sign a 7.5m x 2 with San Jose).

Stamkos,

A) Doesn’t win a cup and goes to highest bid
B) doesn’t win a cup and resigns in TB
C) wins a cup and retires
D) wins a cup and resigns in Tampa
e) wins a cup and resigns to the highest bid
F) doesn’t win a cup and retires

I think Stammer is an absolutely brilliant idea for Grier. And he’s got more opportunities to sign in SJS. Stamkos has won cups and seems like a guy who would enjoy building a team as much as staying in Tampa. He obviously doesn’t want the Sharks to win 15 games so he would have to receive a good pitch from SJ. But he’s got cups and accolades and San Jose can afford a

9m x 3 years
8.5m x 3 years
7m x 4 years (max term imo)
10m x 2 years

I haven’t checked what Tampa can afford realistically (I’ll just guess). But if Grier offered him 10m x 2 (20mil) or 9x3 (27mil) that blows away Tampas max imo 7.5 x 3 or 2

I think Stamkos (if Grier throws the bank at him, with no term being the only wrinkle (max 2-4 years) - has like a 30% maybe of being a Shark.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars à 19 h 4
Sujet: This is the team that beat the Ottawa Senators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Yeah I don't care. My mental bandwidth for cheering for them to be bad ran out about 3 years ago. Hope to see the individual players pump their stats, but I couldn't care less about the team results right now. Not watching the rest of the way. Gonna check out.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I’m watching for the tank and monitoring every tank game that helps us</div></div>

Personally,
I see zero benefits for the Sens to be go like 6-14 for the rest of the year (idk how many games are left).

I know I know there’s prospects and the Sens can hit big. But there is something wrong with the organization. I ain’t gonna sugar coat it, I think a lot of it could have been fixed this year if they fired DJ, last year. But the Sens aren’t even behind the 8 ball, they’re so far behind where they should be it’s scary. Tbh the roster shouldn’t even be allowed to be on vacation that long, they need camps to start in July lol.