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Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2022 à 16 h 3
Sujet: Canucks attempt 2 Advice appreciated
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gordfish</b></div><div>First general piece of advice, stop believing what you hear in the media. They need to sell their product, and 98% of what they say is either made up, extrapolation or purposely leaked to them to by an agent or team management. They sensationalize everything in this market.

Here is what we know about JT Miller. He's a PPG player coming off a 100 point season that helps the Canucks win games RIGHT NOW. This team is not in a rebuild. Rutherford has consistently said, publicly, that they want JT Miller in Vancouver, but because of the team's cap situation, it needs to be on a team friendly contract. They don't move Miller unless, as it is with every player, someone makes an offer they can't refuse. Until then, they wait for TDL, and see how things look then, while continuing to try for an extension. They certainly don't make the trade you have suggested here, at least not now.

It's tough to opine on Poolman right now because of his health. At the moment, I don't see a market for him. Better to keep him, hope he stays healthy and has a bounce back year.

Dickinson, I would buy out. I don't see a market, and he is IMO, after watching him for a year, a fourth line player. Too much to be spending on a fourth liner. But they seem intent on keeping him and hoping for the best instead of turning him into dead cap space, so expect him in the lineup in October.

I don't get this market and Pearson. Again, stop listening to the media and look at the numbers. Yup, he had a bad shortened season in 20-21 and a rough start last year. He's certainly not alone amongst Canuck players in that regard. But overall, his numbers aren't that far off from Palat's, who just signed for 6 mil per at 30 years old. Pearson's contract is a value deal. He scores like a second line player in todays NHL and is paid paid like a third liner, He can play effectively with top players, and is one of the few Canucks who goes to the net with any consistency. Treating him like a cap dump is just foolishness.

Hoglander is a player I would consider moving on while his potential is still a selling point, but there is no reason right now to sell low on him.

If anything else gets done, I would look to Garland or OEL. Those are the contracts I think this group would most like to get out of, because of their term. I don't see much happening on OEL because of his NTC, but I can certainly see Garland in play.</div></div>

I completely agree, media to me is nothing but a starting point to base hypotheticals off of. I don't believe anything I hear until its confirmed, however rumors do give me a reason to do mock trades to see how the roster would pan out, in a dream world etc.

Honestly, I love the idea of having Miller long term. However, long term if they ever plan on getting a true RHD for Hughes, Id rather bank on our current younger forwards, and start allocating cap to younger high end dmen. If we are paying Petterson, Horvat, Boeser, Podkolzin?, Garland? Mikheyev? etc etc long term, I see more value in adding to the defence rather than keeping Miller (Easier said than done, i know...Assuming in some reality theres a trade for Miller that makes sense and people can agree on lol)

The problem I'm having is deciding which forwards stay/ which should go/ which have more value/ who fits long term plan etc etc. With the additions of Kuzmenko and Mikheyev, there is just too many forwards. I have no problem with Pearson, under appreciated by many in my own opinion. Dickenson can go, how ever we make that happen. Buyout etc.

Poolman was moved out due to signing Klingberg, otherwise I do see potential of him having a bounce back season depending on health.

Basically my final thought process is, which players are either a) above the ideal age of core b) have enough value to entice teams, which frees up cap. Example being Pearson, Id rather not move him, but when looking at line combinations, he seems to be expendable, especially if younger players are given more ice time/bigger roles.

Im all over the place with my thoughts my apologies lol

Thanks for the feedback
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2022 à 3 h 21
Sujet: Canucks attempt 2 Advice appreciated
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cardiac</b></div><div>Two immediate take aways I have are that Columbus isn’t the location for Dickinson as they’re pretty cap strapped as is. I would also not give up on hoglander just yet. He still has a lot of upside and I think if he is given the proper opportunity, he can be a very good player. Crouse is a good target but if I was the canucks, I wouldn’t give up on hoglander to get him despite the fact the value is fair. Crouse could be a very good middle 6 winger on a contender if he is dealt to one.</div></div>

Completely agree on Hoglander, sadly I feel he has been buried and wont be given the shot he deserves, therefore I value him enough to dump a bad contract, and retain rights for a more suited player that fits the new "Bigger/Harder to play against" theme. Assuming Crouse doesnt want to sign in Arizona, lets pretend lol hows value assuming above?
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2022 à 3 h 17
Sujet: Canucks attempt 2 Advice appreciated
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>Vancouver is in a tricky spot - division is weakest in league so legit chance to make playoffs but far from certain… if you are trying to make the playoffs, why would you trade Miller? And if you’re trying to fee up sap space to sign a few FAs to help you make the playoffs, you’ll have to add some draft picks to offload Dickson, Pearson or Poolman b/c they are pure cap dumps imo.</div></div>

Exactly, the division is terrible and thats what makes this whole situation tricky. MGMT claims we need to add prospects and add cap room, yet they sign enough forwards to ice three football teams. Which makes me assume theyre trying to compete now/in the next year or so due to the average age of our core.

I have a gut feeling, probably based off seeing Johnny hockey leave Calgary. Rumors are mostly BS, but assuming Miller does actually want to play in the US, I feel its worth trading him now to address team needs and free up cap space. Id prefer sign him honestly, and trade Garland instead. Which allows potential UFA signings ex Klingberg (Dumb rumors saying he's waiting for Canucks to clear cap space, which is why I went in that direction.