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Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2022 à 15 h 35
Sujet: NWWFTLF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Uhh... yes it was. Skjei Pesce was a top 3 pairing in most things, top 5 in anything they're not top 3...

Getting an upgrade at LD is not bad asset management. Overpaying for it is. I've already said that the 1st and both defensemen is an overpayment. Before you try and argue this, please read what I've already said. I do not like repeating myself.</div></div>

I literally just looked it up. Not only were they not top-3, they weren't the top Hurricanes D pair.

Skjei specifically is a beneficiary of who he plays with and how he's used. If Pesce was the guy in the trade it would be one thing, but Sandin is a better fit from a cost perspective and Liljegren is a better fit from both a cost perspective and position perspective. Skjei isn't better than Rielly, cannot fill the role of Muzzin or Giordano and isn't going to be more effective in Sandin's role. Its just dumb.

I'd love to see Toronto make that trade because I'm a Habs fan, but it would be terrible asset management.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2022 à 15 h 22
Sujet: NWWFTLF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>They're cheaper, but they're also worse. Skjei was on a top 3 analytical pairing in the NHL last year with Pesce. He plays top pairing minutes some night, but mostly top 4 on one of the best teams in the NHL for two guys that are younger sure... but Sandin's development seems to have stalled and Lilly's seemed to have done the same before Giordano arrived in Toronto. I don't understand this delusion. A solidified top 4 D man for a 22/23 year old that at this point looks like his ceiling is a similar version to what Skjei is being called bad asset management? LOL. That's pure delusion. I think one or the other +, I agree both is probably a little much. But if Toronto isn't going to trade one of these to get better blueline help, they're never going to win a playoff round.</div></div>

Skjei-Pesce was not a top-3 analytics pair. Hell, Sandin-Liljegren was a better analytics pair than Skeji-anybody. Considering the cap and Toronto's needs, its illogical to argue that its NOT bad asset management given who else Toronto has at LD.