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Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 16 h 29
Sujet:
a retool
Yikes.
Ignoring how bad all these trades are for the Pens: No way Malkin waives his NTC for Florida. Likewise Kessel almost certainly has ARI on his no-trade list.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 16 h 26
Sujet:
Realistic Retool
Wow, I think you need to review some of these trades:
Ottawa is in rebuild mode. While it <strong>may </strong>be possible to convince them to take JJ as a cap dump, it probably requires a better prospect and/or a high draft pick.
Not sure why Nashville would give up Sissions plus a pick when they could just try to resign Simmonds - Similar money, simliar player. And I'm pretty sure they'd rather just resign Sissions with that money rather than get Hornqvist.
Coyotes don't need another 2nd pair Dman, doubly so if it would cost them a pick.
Pretty sure the Wild would jump on that trade... but why do the Pens trade Hornqvist then trade a bunch of assets to get a similar player/contract back?
Huge overpay for Pettersson. Sure, he looked pretty good this year, but this was still his first full season. He doesn't have arbitration rights, so a 2-3 year deal makes more sense, plus he's still a RFA afterwards, which is good for the Pens.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 15 h 29
Sujet:
Please JR give the young D a Chance
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhatsaMaattaWithYou</b></div><div>When they are already 300k over the cap going into next season and when you give roster spots to said players it will</div></div>
I think you are confused and need to re-read the proposed roster, <strong>including trades</strong>, shown above. The entire point is to try to move Guds and JJ for cap room (they are literally the only ones currently under contract for 19/20 that are being replaced) so the Pens can keep Schultz and Maattaa. Without further moves, they need to let their young (and cheap!) players play.
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Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 14 h 47
Sujet:
Please JR give the young D a Chance
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhatsaMaattaWithYou</b></div><div>Low ball Pettersson and give raises to players who haven't proved anything at the NHL level. What was the point of dumping salary to overpay unproven players? Isn't this why the Penguins are in the situation they're in? So if you are trying to correct Rutherford's mistakes, who is going to correct yours?</div></div>
I have no idea what you're talking about. Pettersson is the only RFA who isn't arbitration eligible and only has 1.5 seasons in the league. He's not going to cash-in on this contract. All the others will need RFA tenders which means they are guaranteed at least a 5% raise, I believe. Prow is an UFA, so he needs a decent contract or he likely signs somewhere else. Regardless, $50-100k/year isn't going to make-or-break this lineup.
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Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 14 h 14
Sujet:
Please JR give the young D a Chance
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biglite351</b></div><div>Could probably get a 3rd from Ottawa for Gudbranson straight, no need to include Jarry. Ottawa is going to have difficulty filling a roster with NHL players. Gudbranson isn't bad and has term, two things that Ottawa is going to be desperate for.</div></div>
I'm not convinced of that at all. Gudbranson is an interchangeable 2nd pairing guy. Pens should be trying to move him ASAP before teams who may be interested just sign FA's. Not sure there are that many teams who would be eager to make the trade, and Pens need the cap space more than a mid-round pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 14 h 9
Sujet:
Please JR give the young D a Chance
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Tampa can do better for cheaper on the ufa market than Johnson and get a player that fits them better.</div></div>
There's certainly better players available - but how does Tampa afford them with their cap squeeze? I doubt TB wants to fill the D4 thru 7 spots on their roster with nothing but guys with less than 1 full season in the league. Assuming they trade a forward for a 2nd pairing guy (pick one of the million proposed trades on the site) and assuming they have the 6-7 spots for young guys, they still need a cheap veteran. Maybe you don't want that to be Johnson, but I think he's decent in that role at the right price. Let me know if I'm missing something.
While I'd much rather get rid of Johnson, the Pens could alternatively trade Maatta, but that's a different thread entirely. Bottom line is the Pens have 3 guys (Guds, JJ, & Maatta) who all are borderline 4/5 D and need to drop 2 of them. Tampa seems like a fit for JJ with retained salary and a pick sweetener.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 13 h 52
Sujet:
2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>No way Islanders move him and noway Miller waves NYC for non-contender like the Flyers.</div></div>
Agree that Miller most likely blocks the trade. I think the Islanders may be willing to move Hickey for some good talent at forward, but I don't think this trade even begins to approach the needed value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 13 h 42
Sujet:
Speed and Forechecking
Kessel almost certainly blocks the trade. And even if he agreed, Coyotes are a budget team trying to finish a rebuild. I doubt they'd be interested, especially if the price is that steep.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2019 à 13 h 27
Sujet:
Please JR give the young D a Chance
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>lol not gonna pawn jack Johnson off that easy.</div></div>
Great argument to back up that statement.
I never would imagine guys like Hainsey, Daley, and Girardi would get their current contracts. (That's true of JJ's current contract as well.) But NHL GM's almost universally seem to prefer a minimum number of veteran players. Regardless, I'm not one of those people who thinks Johnson can't play hockey. He's a 3rd pairing D-man than can play up in a pinch. And Tampa is going to need some of those cheaper 4/5 D-men unless they overhaul their roster. Maybe Tampa isn't interested, but I don't think the trade is unreasonable on it's face.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 août 2018 à 11 h 23
Sujet:
potential deadline move?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Davisoc</b></div><div>Can I just say, I would be so proud of Staal to warrant this level of return at his age. Good for him.</div></div>
Yikes, you aren't kidding...
If it's a deadline move, they don't necessarily need to trade Hagelin since Pittsburgh could bank cap space during the season. And no way they give up a 1st AND a 2nd for a rental. More likely a conditional 1st and a 4th, similar to the Evander Kane deal.
Finally, I'm not sure Min will want to trade Staal, since they're likely going to be pushing for the playoffs (even if they're unlikely to make a deep run).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 août 2018 à 12 h 18
Sujet:
Karlsson rental
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chigurrhh</b></div><div>Without the Schultz cap hit and with Guentzel taking a bridge deal between 5-6 million (just pretend that Guentzel is getting Schultz's cap space), there should be enough space to sign Karlsson. This means the 4th line is going to be pretty cheap, but it's certainly possible. The cap should go up a few million (lets say 3). Brassard, Sheahan, and Hagelin all have expiring deals for a total of $8.1 million. Bellerive could potentially play 3rd line center. Blueger is said to be ready to center the fourth line already. ZAR can take the wing on the 3rd or 4th line. This leaves 10-11 million to sign Karlsson.
And of course, other moves could be made to clear space.</div></div>
3 million seems like a pretty optimistic cap increase and I would be shocked if Bellerive was ready to make the leap to the NHL full-time in 19-20.
Brassard / Sheahan / Hagelin cap hits total 9.1million, but you're not going to be able to replace all of them with minimum salary players. Even if the cap jumps 3 million AND you get Guentzel for 5.5 AND Bellerive is ready... Karlsson is going to want 10.5-11 million, which leaves you maybe a million in cap space to replace Hagelin, and remember that ZAR will be due a raise as well. You're now completely out of cap space. Technically possible, but what if the cap only goes up 2 million?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 août 2018 à 10 h 52
Sujet:
Karlsson rental
That's a lot of assets to give up for one year of Karlsson, especially if Sprong starts contributing at the NHL level this year. Don't think there is any way they can re-sign Karlsson after this year unless they don't resign/trade Guentzel. I think Ottawa would accept the trade, but this seems to dramatically shrink Pittsburgh's championship window to go all-in this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août 2018 à 7 h 28
Sujet:
Erik Karlsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>are you insane, the 1st round picks will be 25-31st, OTT does not do this unless serious prospects come their way.</div></div>
I guess we'll see what the Sens actually get then. I think if they try to hold out for the deal you want, they end up with nothing and he walks next summer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 juill. 2018 à 15 h 52
Sujet:
Three way trade w/ Pitt and Vegas
Pittsburgh can't afford Karlsson without dumping additional salary. Also blows a big hole in their RW lineup losing both Kessel and Sprong. Don't see this trade as likely without more parts moving.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 juill. 2018 à 15 h 29
Sujet:
Erik Karlsson
As previously mentioned, Vegas does this deal in a heart-beat: Elite winger and overpriced middle-6 winger all for a single 1st round pick? Of course!
Ottawa gets two first-round picks and a replacement 2/3D and sheds Ryan's contract? That basically meets their reported asking price, except they're getting two picks instead of a pick and a prospect.
Pittsburgh... eh. I'm assuming this trade is contingent on an extension for Karlsson in the $11+ million range, given all the salary cleared. So they definitely get a big boost to their D at the expense of a 1st and an elite forward. I guess that's not completely unreasonable?
I'm not sure why this is getting so much hate. The Sens are getting a lot of assets for a player that really sounds like he's ready to leave for *nothing* after one more year. Vegas makes out like bandits. Pens improve their defense, but at significant cost. Not saying this is likely, since who knows how all the various GM's and players with NTC's feel, but it's far more reasonable than some of the stuff you see proposed here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 juin 2018 à 7 h 51
Sujet:
fil 2
Kunitz isn't done, he still put up near 30 points in limited minutes, killed penalties, and has "championship experience", for whatever that's worth. Some GM is going to offer him a contract. I don't really *want* the Pens to sign him, but I don't think this contract is unreasonable. I think the Pens would be better off trying to filling the spot with one of their prospects, though.
I'm pretty sure Cullen is either going to retire or resign with the Wild. If he wanted to play for Pittsburgh, he wouldn't have left last summer.
Still hoping the Johnson contract is for 3-4 years at most. And despite that, all of his fancy stats say he's terrible and isn't anything better than a 6/7D man. But yeah, this seems to match all the rumors.
Kühnhackl supposedly already turned down a 2 year contract, so he's probably looking to sign somewhere that will give him more minutes.
You need to flip Rust/Sprong in your lineup. Rust can play either side, but as far as I know, Sprong has only ever played RW.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 août 2017 à 16 h 8
Sujet:
Realistic bottom 6 centers
The FLA trade blows a hole in their starting lineup, they already have two goalies signed for 4+ years, and retaining salary for 4 years is a tough pill to swallow. I don't think the Pens want to trade Jarry for a bottom-6 forward. I'm just not sure FLA would be willing to give up a good enough player for a price PIT finds acceptable.
I could see the Kings making a trade with one of the players you mention, assuming there was a young winger they like.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 août 2017 à 16 h 19
Sujet:
Possible Quick Rebuild
I think all of those trades are lopsided in Detroit's favor:
-No reason for the Av's to take on Ericsson's contract for just a 6th round pick, no matter how much they need bodies on D.
-Helm is overpayed and the Pen's can't afford him. They would've just kept Bonino, who's a better player, got a similar contract, and wouldn't cost a pick.
-The Green trade is probably the most reasonable, but no contender is going to be able to accommodate his cap hit without retained salary.
-Mrazek isn't worth a 1st. Goalies generally don't get huge returns in a trade, and his numbers for the past year were terrible. This reminds me of all the crazy Fleury trades people were proposing before the expansion draft. Maybe a 3rd round pick if a team is desperate after an injury.
-I don't see the Jets trading Trouba unless the offer blows them away. They didn't trade him last year, why would they trade him now?
Assuming they were able to move enough salary, I could see Jagr taking that contract. But I don't think these moves work as-is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 juill. 2017 à 12 h 21
Sujet:
Smart trade for 3C. Don't need Duchene, need another Bonino
I completely agree with your concept. However, I'm not so sure I like the trade. Blueger played pretty well in the AHL after coming back from injury, and I think he's a likely candidate for the Pens to bring up mid-season if there are injuries at center. I don't hate the Pirri signing, but you're overpaying for a 4C. I'd replace Cullen (who I'd bet is retiring) with Rowney, but that's basically a wash.
Regarding having 3+ scoring lines: That's largely dependent on Sprong and/or ZAR being able to make the jump to the NHL mid-season. A completely separate need is for a 3C/4C who is defensively responsible and can play on the PK.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juin 2017 à 17 h 30
Sujet:
Throwing an idea out there
I don't necessarily hate the idea of trying to get Kruger for center depth, but definitely not at his full cap hit. Maybe if Vegas was willing to retain $1 to $1.5 million, but that may require a higher draft pick.
No way I'd pencil Pouliot in the starting lineup. Probably still need a trade or signing to fill out the defense, and Kruger at his full cap hit makes that more difficult.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juin 2017 à 14 h 14
Sujet:
PHIL KESSEL IS A 2X STANLEY CUP CHAMP
Fleury has reportedly already waived for expansion:
<a href="https://www.murphyshockeylaw.net/murphys-hockey-law/mhl-per-nhl-sources-marc-andre-fleury-waived-his-modified-nmc-for-expansion-draft/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.murphyshockeylaw.net/murphys-hockey-law/mhl-per-nhl-sources-marc-andre-fleury-waived-his-modified-nmc-for-expansion-draft/</a>
Vegas needs at least two NHL level goaltenders and Fleury is most likely to be the best available (in the short term). But assuming LV doesn't want Fleury, who do they take? Cole/Rust/Pouliot/Hagelin are likely candidates, and I'm not sure any of them offer more value than Fleury. Rust may be close, depending on if you think he can still score away from Crosby/Malkin.
I think Bonino is going to get offered $4 mil x 4 years somewhere else. If somehow he's willing to take less to stay in Pittsburgh, I wouldn't be angry with that contract. Seems like an overpay for Eliot, but the goalie market is going to be weird this off season, so who knows.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. 2017 à 16 h 53
Sujet:
RFA signings and Fleury trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>Lehner is really good
Buffalo doesn't need Fleury
Maybe with the 2 million retained Carolina or Winnipeg would be interested....
Or even a trade to Vegas post Exp. Draft</div></div>
My understanding (from a friend who follows Buffalo more than I do) is that Lehner has been inconsistent and the Sabres management may not want to commit to a long term contract that he'll probably be seeking. Bringing in a competitor for the starting spot (even if it isn't Fleury) seems like a good move.
Calgary/Winnipeg/LV are all options from a needs/cap space point of view, but no guarantee that Fleury waives his NTC to go west. Carolina probably needs to send a goalie back (AND still needs to have one to expose to the draft) which won't work with the Pen's cap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. 2017 à 16 h 6
Sujet:
congrats caps its your cup to lose
Realistically, I think Boston would need Rask to stand on his head for multiple games to win a series against Washington or even a Letang-less Pens team. Anyone can get hot in the playoffs, but I'm not sure they have the team depth to win 4 series.
Even without Letang, Pens are still the 2nd best team in the east, assuming all the guys on the roster above actually are back for the playoffs. But the Caps clearly have a much better defense and goaltending. Pens would need Murray to outplay Holtby for a realistic chance to win the series. I think it's obvious the Caps should be the favorite to win the east, but upsets happen every year, so we'll see!
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Armchair-GM
30 mars 2017 à 13 h 46
Sujet:
Tampa Bay Lightning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NateElder12</b></div><div>those Drouin, Palat, and Johnson deals are off by a lot IMO - especially Palat/Johnson since you are buying out all their UFA years from this point on</div></div>
Agree with Palat and Johnson ($5+ milion seems likely), but the Drouin contract doesn't seem completely out of line. Especially since he doesn't appear to be arbitration eligible, he doesn't have very much leverage.
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Armchair-GM
30 mars 2017 à 13 h 36
Sujet:
Would Toronto do this?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>Nobody wants him before the expansion draft let alone knowing he will go through buy out waivers and get bought out by Pittsburgh. Why trade for him when you can probably sign him for 2 million after he gets bought out?</div></div>
So none of Calgary, Buffalo, or Winnipeg, none of which have a starter-caliber goaltender under contract for next year, would have any interest? Even if the Pens retained, say $2 in salary (roughly the equivalent of the buyout cost)? I'm going to have to disagree. Low trade value maybe, "nobody wants him" is hyperbole.
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