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Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars 2023 à 13 h 3
Sujet: How is this team supposed to make the playoffs next season
How can they get into playoff contention next year?

First, better coaching with a full training camp.

Second, a strong, healthy season for Thatcher Demko with a full season from Silovs as his backup. They need Demko, and they need him healthy.

Third, a better blueline. Hronek is a good start.

And fourth, a deeper group of prospects pushing the NHL roster.

And things like a full healthy season from Mikheyev, a better PK, and a better start to the season will help. They never recovered from that 0-5-2 start, and don't underestimate the effect that had. They had to play must-win hockey from December on last season to get back into the playoff push. The start they had this year put them right back in that grind, and they didn't have the fight left in them to do it all over again.

We're not talking about Cup contention next season, that comes later. We're talking about being in the wild card hunt in the Pacific Division.

On another note, Allvin all but screamed that buy outs were coming in that press conference. They can clear cap space. In fact, they've already cleared enough space in the last year to extend Miller and add guys like Mikheyev, Beauvillier, Kuzmenko and Hronek. They clear space when they need it, they just fill that space right away. This market kills me sometimes. If they were 27th and were sitting on 10 or 12 million of open cap space, the media and the fans would be screaming and moaning about how they aren't spending to the cap to help the team win. Jesus wept.

For someone who has been in this for 5 decades, the last thing I want to see after 10 years of losing is another 5 years of bottom feeding. Those of you who joined the party during the West Coast Express run don't fully appreciate just how bad this organization has been. I've seen enough losing, thanks very much. They are taking this future HOF core of Pettersson, Hughes and Demko and retooling around it whether you like it or not, and it suits some of us just fine. You can stop whining and get on board with it, or you can keep being miserable. YOU CHOOSE!
Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars 2023 à 13 h 47
Sujet: Realistic Outcome
I found that the most revealing part of Allvin's presser was when he said he learned that other teams don't value their players because they are underperforming.

He was pretty clear that he isn't taking below what he thinks is market value for a 25 year old winger on a 60 point pace in what everyone seems to feel is a down year in Boeser; so he wants the coaching staff to push Brock to play better to get the return he's looking for. And he isn't interested in retaining on Brock. So unless Boeser comes out of his boots these last 20 games, I'd prepare myself to see him in the opening night roster next October, assuming he doesn't get hurt again.

Now whether people in this market like it or not, it's also fairly clear that buyouts are coming. Allvin said internal conversations have him confident that they'll be cap compliant. That means he's been told he can buy players out. I think OEL is an obvious choice here (although I am curious to see him play with Hronek if they can both get healthy in time). And I think Garland is likely the other candidate. Unless the cap goes up by 4 or 5 million this season, who is looking to take on a third line winger making 5 million per for another 3 years? And he's small. Which might not be such a big deal if he were fast, but he's not. Clearly there isn't a market for Garland, no matter how dewy he makes the analytics crowd. They free up 3 million per by buying him out next year. A buyout is a tool to make you better by giving you a chance to correct mistakes. They would be fools not to use that tool.

And then I think there is a chance they can move Myers this summer to a team that needs to take on salary to get to the floor, IF Myers is willing to go there. But , they may decide to keep him and Pearson and hope they both have good enough seasons to get something as rentals at the TDL. I think that would depend on whether or not there a deal available for a player they really like, and they need the cap space to bring that player in. And those two they would retain on, because it's only for a season.

I like the Hronek deal, as well (as long as his shoulder is OK; it's been almost 40 years, and this market still winces when they hear the name Barry Pedersen). It reminds me of when the Avs dealt for Toews. And there are a lot of similarities here between that Avs team and these Canucks. Pettersson, Hughes and Demko are great players; any GM in the league would jump at the chance to build around those three. I think Hronek can still get better, and that this was a vital add to get them where they need to be. They're good on the left side with Rathbone, EPD, Jurmo, Truscott and Kudryatsev coming, but they still need a few more guys on the right. I really like what I saw from Silovs, I think they are going to have two very good number one goalies not too long from now. And if they hit on Raty as their 3rd line centre, they are a lot closer than people think.

Finally, Miller. If you're reading this, take some time to look at the rosters of the top teams in the league and count the number of 30-something year olds on their rosters. Take a look at the age of the players that contending teams like Colorado and Toronto have been adding at the deadlines. You don't win Stanley Cups with a roster full of 25 year olds. Half the rosters for Tampa and Colorado last year were 30 or over. When the Canucks are in their window to contend, having Miller already means one less deal where they have to give up futures to bring in a veteran player. And by the time they get to that point, the cap will be close 100 million dollars anyways; Miller's 8 won't hurt them.

This team does not need a 5 to 7 year, down to the studs rebuild. Who the hell in this market in their right minds wants another 5 years of bottom feeding anyways?!? They have the right core. And this time, they have a lot of Cup rings on the hands of the guys in charge. I do wish they'd get around to overhauling their scouting department, and I don't agree with every move they've made. But this Horvat trade tree has me thinking that they do get what needs to be done.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. 2023 à 17 h 28
Sujet: Demko
This Demko nonsense is ALL media driven. The Canucks have no more interest in moving him than they do in moving Pettersson or Hughes. I'm sure there are teams calling on all three, and anyone can be traded, but it'll take a King's ransom to get one of those three out of Vancouver right now.

Given what the market is sounding like, I doubt they move Schenn at this point. Maybe as we get closer to the deadline, but I don't see him going anywhere for a 3rd round pick and a C level prospect. Canucks want him back next year.

Retention on Boeser is unlikely unless the deal really favours the Canucks. Probably gets done in the summer. Again, maybe as the deadline closes and teams that haven't been able to swing a deal for a winger get desperate...

Myers, after July 1 at the earliest. I could see them keeping him until the 2024 TDL.

I think Garland will get another shot with Tocchett running the bench.

All in all, I'm sensing a lot quieter TDL for the Canucks than the media are suggesting. Maybe guys like Burroughs, Dries or Dermott.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. 2023 à 18 h 51
Sujet: horvaT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>The Canucks finally made a good move. Im stoked.</div></div>

Very surprised the Islanders got back in on this, given the season they've had. But, they are in the similar spot that Nashville is in, I guess. Vested in a veteran team that you really have little choice but to double down on. I'll say this for the Islanders...if Horvat ends up being strictly a rental, this has the potential to cost Lou his job if they don't at least make the playoffs.

For the Canucks, I'll take it. Raty is the guy I wanted when he was still on the board when they took Klimovich. He can be a really solid third line centre for them. All of a sudden the Abby Canucks looked stacked at forward. And that's funny. This is a deal more suited for a rebuild, and the best part of the return might be the pick. They could be in the position to grab the best defensemen in the class, and if it's Reinbacher and he hits, they could potentially get their number one RHD in waiting in the deal as well.

Yup, I don't think I mind this deal at all. Nothing breathtaking, but solid.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 janv. 2023 à 15 h 26
Sujet: Start of 23-24 with retroactive trades ALL IN BABY
I do think Carolina is the front runner for Bo, the fit is too perfect. I just can't see the Canucks taking Kotkaniemi's contract back in the deal. The term is crazy. Sure, he's 22, but if he's a third line center? With the Canucks already pressed against the cap? That's a lot of money for a third liner, for a long, long time. Right now I'm thinking the Canes want to talk to Bo about an extension, but the Canucks won't agree to do that unless Necas is part of the return. Both are waiting for the other side to blink.

I am ALL for playing hardball for our assets, but this isn't the Eichel situation where management can hold out for years if they want. They have a month before Horvat is gone for nothing. Maybe they land on Jarvis?

After Carolina, I'd rank Nashville as the next most likely to get him, no matter what the Preds fans on here might think. Nashville aren't in a position to rebuild and they need something to give them a shot at getting a run or three out their current group. I think Glass would certainly get the conversation started. It may end up being only a rental deal, but Poile's running out of options.

I'd put New Jersey comfortably in third. They apparently have interest, and they certainly have the assets. I think Meier might be the better play for them, but I could see the Devils stepping up their offer in a hurry if they get outbid for Meier.

I can't see Detroit coming out of their boots at this point, although I see them at the top of the list if he reaches UFA.

Boston, Colorado, Seattle, I just don't see the pieces there. If the Avs and Krakkers are talking Byram or Wright, sure...but I don't see it. People always like to throw the Rangers in when big pieces are in play, and stranger things have happened. But I think they have their sights set on Kane, either at the TDL or in July, and I can't see them making a big offer for Bo as a rental.

Buffalo and Dallas could be dark horses here, IMO.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2023 à 12 h 43