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Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin 2021 à 21 h 43
Sujet: Going all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>All that time is with PP time? Are you crazy? Kubalik who had 30 goals last year and only 4 came as a result of the PP and you think all his time is PP? He wasn't even on the first PP unit! He ranked 9th on the team in ATOI during the PP behind Kane, Cat, Toews, Strome, Gustaffson, Keith, Boqvist, and Shaw...wow guy, you really know the Hawks well!

Further, in even strength, his zone starts were 49.1 offense and 50.9 defense. Kane and Cat were 57.2/42.8 and 58.3/41.7 comparably.

LMAO, so that is how you determined who is playing first line through 4th line is QoC? LMAO And you think hockey isn't about line matching AND zone matching both? You're out of your mind if you don't understand the role of both. You don't think when the opposing team doesn't see Kane and Cat hit the ice they are deploying their 1st line against them and all the same Hawks counter with their 1st or 4th line? It's a game of strategic matchups constantly throughout the game that includes both line and zone matching period, but no way shape or form does that determine who is 1st line, 2nd line and so forth. Get your ass of the internet and watch the games, the eyes don't lie, but what can lead to incorrect assumptions are advanced analytics and why they are highly debated as to the true effectiveness of them and why most pros don't rely solely on them like you are trying to do as you clearly didn't watch the Hawks closely and saw the evolution of Kubalik midway through the season into the first line player who didn't rely on PP time.

I know you millennials think all your answers on the internet, but here's one of many good articles arguing that advanced analytics are far from the be all to end all and your lack of knowledge here is proving that. Enjoy the read..
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/courier-archive/news/why-quality-of-competition-doesnt-matter-to-analytics-experts-anymore-3082197</div></div>

ololol not a leafs fan or a millennial, nice try again papito

learn the difference between the word 'with' vs 'only' in reference to his PP time

and wow, you know you can also cross reference QoC relCF with a dude's Line Combo and get to the point of that long winded rant of an article

the arguement was based around Kubalik's QoC because we agreed he played mostly with Saad/Toews so his QoT is irrelevant
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin 2021 à 19 h 37
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin 2021 à 18 h 17
Sujet: Going all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Name calling...wow...really intelligent of you! LMAO

Kubalik was moved up the lineup in 2020 midway through his rookie season and played top line in the playoffs with Toews and Saad...that's not the 2nd line. Kubalik's ATOI in the playoffs was 16 minutes flat. His ATOI in January 15:05, February 16:38, March 16:42 in 2020. He started the season in October at 13.27 in 2019 on the 3rd line Coach C deploys the 4th line many times against the competition's 1st line as the 4th line in the hawks system is a defensive line with Kampf as the C and Carps on the RW and rotating cast on the LW; this is most apparent in the D zone faceoffs. Further, kubalik doesn't play the PK.</div></div>

Right, all that time is with <strong>PP time... with elite talent.</strong>

In '19-20 <strong>Cat, Kane, Strome faced the highest QoC for the season</strong>. Turns out starting the game with Toews and Saad doesnt preclude the other team from line matching their top players vs Kane/Cat the other 99% of the game.

Whatever you <em>think</em> of systems (of which youre wrong about harking back to 80s hockey line matching instead of zone matching) doesnt change the actual QoC relCF% of a player which is the direct measure of line matching vs possession. Crazy new aged concepts!