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Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 17 h 31
Sujet: The Window Opens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lightman13</b></div><div>I’m not taking this as an insult - I get your rationale, just think that this particular proposal cripples the wild far more than it helps them. Advanced metrics show foligno to be a top 2 or 3 defensive winger in the nhl. He doesn’t put up a lot of points so he’ll never be a selke contender, but in the same way a Jonas brodin is a top 5 defensive defensemen. He’ll never put up much for numbers but is as solid as they come for what he does.

Taking a Schmidt who is a 2nd pair defender on a wild team, but old costly and longer term than they are looking for. Foligno and hartman more than make up for a cheaper 2nd pair option with their responsible play. A move like this would be much less fruitful for the wild. A move for hartman and foligno like this would genuinely require more than a 1st be added by Vancouver and more salary going back. Which I’m sure would sound quite unreasonable, but also would be necessary.

I think a better proposal wiuld be centered around greenway and rask. The cap would work better for the wild in the near future and would only give you greenway to resign after for a modest raise.</div></div>

Interesting take, I haven't watched a ton of Wild games recently but thought Greenway would be untouchable. Rask doesn't really help much because your issues are going to be after his deal expires.

Regardless, will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 17 h 9
Sujet: The Window Opens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>Foligno is an elite defensive winger (11th in Selke voting) who can chip in some valuable scoring. Wouldn't say he's overpaid. I don't know how you can't consider Hartman, a good 3C/W at 1,7 million cheap.</div></div>

I think 20 pt wingers grow on trees, nothing wrong with Hartman, he plays hard and has some skill but 1.7 isn't cheap its the going rate. Foligno is a unicorn in terms of his physical and responsible play, I disagree with the elite moniker and imagine his strong season had more to do with play with EK, who I would call Elite. You guys are taking this as an insult, they are good players and if the wild didn't have to deal with massive penalties, I would agree that they wouldn't be on the block. Who else is the team going to move to clear cap from 2022-2026? Any other player is going to cost the same or more to replace. You can find bottom 6 wingers every year signing for less than 5 million combined.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 16 h 50
Sujet: The Window Opens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Amakoue</b></div><div>Umm..no. Marcus foligno, and Ryan Hartman aren't being traded. They are too important to wild, and were given 3 years extension starting next season .

Sorry, but no one besides Arizona especially wild are taking on the trash contract of Nate schmidt whose a cap dump. Then two nobody..this deal is rejected very easily. How you ever thought this was fair, or didn't thought it out than both players being given multi year extensions will be traded, not only be traded but traded for cap dump, and trash</div></div>

Not sure I agree on your opinion of Schmidt as he's a legit top 4 player, I would prefer to keep him but he wants out. Motte and Hartman are pretty comparable players but Foligno is obviously a key role player. I can't see the Wild affording him after this season though.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 juill. 2021 à 10 h 44