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Forum: Armchair-GM7 juill. 2022 à 8 h 33

Sujet: Garland Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Jackets decline as we have a surplus of wingers and a shortage of right shot defenseman and high end players like pick 12 has a chance of generating.</div></div>

Fair enough, for some reason, I was thinking the team was stacked on RD.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 juill. 2022 à 7 h 10

Sujet: JT Miller draft day

The package is bloated but to be fair it doesn't include any premium assets which are usually in the NYR trade proposals. Without Kakko, Schneider, 1st or Lafrenierre being included its a lot of uncertainty for the Canucks.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 14 h 34

Sujet: Complicated

I like the Severson for Miller swap and think the value is close.

Kadri contract would be just as risky if not more as a Miller one IMO. Great player, but don't think he will age well into his late 30's.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 12 h 26

Sujet: Keeping miller and Bo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>I just gave him the Gusev deal. First comprable I thought of</div></div>

Makes sense, FYI just built the 23/24 roster because I was curious what it looked like. Not a jab at you in any way.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3373621

Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 12 h 10

Sujet: Keeping miller and Bo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>It kinda works in 2023-2024. Canucks would have to trade away Myers or or Pearson to make it work.

I think myers is pretty movable in his final year. After his bonus is paid he is only owed 1 million in salary and Canucks could retain 50% and it would still work.

I think 6x8.25 is the max the Canucks will go, so if he doesn’t sign it then this AGM doesn’t matter anyways cause he won’t be on the team</div></div>

I agree, still think 8,25 might be a bit much if they want to improve the rest of the roster but as you've shown it is possible to keep all 3 if they can get some good value deals. That said I doubt Kuzmenko hits to the point of needing 4.5.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 11 h 52

Sujet: Keeping miller and Bo

Does the salary work in 23-24?

I have a hard time seeing the dollars all working still having Myers, Dickenson and Pearson on the books while adding Miller, Horvat, Kuzmenko, Kulak, and possibly Hoglander that year. I'm also not sure 6x 8.25 gets it done for Miller.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2022 à 10 h 0

Sujet: Build around Miller

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JhonnyCanuck5</b></div><div>The only way Detroit is trading a 1st in 2022 or 2023 is for a young (25 and younger) true top 6 center.
So it isn’t likely.</div></div>

I agree, incredibly unlikely but at 27 Horvat is pretty young and is definitely a top 6 Center.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2022 à 14 h 32

Sujet: Build around Miller

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>I could see Myers having positive value to Anaheim next offseason after his bonus is paid and he is only owed $1 million in salary. Doesn’t really make sense for them this offseason though unless they really really like the player. Certainly doesn’t make sense for the cost OP suggested</div></div>

Fair enough, my thinking was Manson for 1 year = 2nd + Helleson (mid 2nd) and Myers 2 years = 2 2nds for the extra year. Myers is better offensively and similar defensively.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2022 à 14 h 22

Sujet: Build around Miller

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Take out the first and wings say yes, def not getting unprotected first in a deep draft from a rebuilding team for a guy who can walk In a year</div></div>

The assumption with Horvat was that he wiuld agree to an extension prior. He's mentioned previously that the Wings are essentially his hometown team and the team he grew up cheering for. I agree likely not unprotected but no way the deal happens without the 2023 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2022 à 15 h 28

Sujet: D Overhaul and Depth Overall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>What is unreasonable, you completely ignore the fact that Pulock has a new 8 year contract with a Full NTC. What player has ever waived his NTC before his contract started, and why would Lou ever ask him to waive it.

There is absolutely 0% chance that Pulock is moved.</div></div>

Easy big fella, maybe unreasonable is the wrong word. You clearly really like the player and that is important, I get it.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2022 à 13 h 6

Sujet: D Overhaul and Depth Overall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goblues_Gocanucks</b></div><div>This is the biggest gift the blues could ever receive</div></div>

Is Scandella that bad? Overpaid by a bit but still a solid defender and puck mover. Dickenson has no value and Hoglander is still mostly potential as much as I love him.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2022 à 13 h 3

Sujet: D Overhaul and Depth Overall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NV94</b></div><div>That’s an awful trade for Miller. Canucks pass easily</div></div>

I would most nucks fans would say a long term partner for Hughes would be good value but perhaps you don't like Pulock or really like Myers?

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2022 à 13 h 0

Sujet: D Overhaul and Depth Overall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>He didn’t regress he was hurt, and has a full NTC on his new 8 year contract, there is nothing you can offer to get him as he is not going anywhere.</div></div>

He at one point looked like he was a 40+ Dman and has looked more like a 30 pt guy for the past few. It's not a slight on the player as he is a great player.

I get why you don't want to trade him and wouldn't consider it as a fan. I have the same unreasonable attachment to Horvat and wouldn't consider a trade for him as a fan.

I'm going to stick to my opinion that the value is fair.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2022 à 12 h 5

Sujet: D Overhaul and Depth Overall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KrisBeKreame</b></div><div>The Islanders still easily say no. Value is skewed towards Van and they don't part with Pulock</div></div>

I think Pulock is a premier Dman but no longer regarded as a highly due to his offensive regression. I'm curious how far off the value is ?

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 10 h 32

Sujet: Keep them All

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>But the longer Horvat doesn't resign brings him closer to UFA. Is there a real compelling reason for Horvat to stay? Teams may not want "move a player", but a UFA player has a choice.</div></div>

He's been the team's captain and heart for a number of years and seems very happy to be that for the Canucks. If the team is able to improve with the Demko, Hughes, Pettersson core, I expect he will want to stay.

I expect we see a Horvat extension this summer.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 10 h 24

Sujet: Keep them All

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>You're right. At least the Canucks do have the option on Horvat and Miller not resign and see how the season plays out till TDL. Though the further in the season, players like the thought of being UFAs more and more.</div></div>

I think that would be a mistake but might be what we see if Mgmt can't get the return they want for Miller/Boeser. I can't see Horvat being moved.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 10 h 2

Sujet: Keep them All

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I guess the issue is....why do you want to keep them all? Are the Canucks still a middling team with the cast of characters assembled?</div></div>

There's a decent amount of nucks fans who saw the 2nd half of the season and think that it is folly to move any of them and that this team is a contender based off of the 50+ games to end the season.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 9 h 57

Sujet: Canucks 22-23

Terrible value for Miller/Boeser

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2022 à 9 h 43

Sujet: Keep them All

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sedin33</b></div><div>That D is bad. Trade Miller</div></div>

I agree, as I said so in the description.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2022 à 18 h 32

Sujet: Retool 2point0

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Devils are likely extending Severson so not expected to trade him and not likely to move their 2nd overall pick nor likely to pay for a rental nor add another small skilled winger nor trade their best face-off guy.

Other than that, looks good.</div></div>

An extended Miller would provide much more value in the next 5 years than Severson. While the 2nd overall is steep, the player picked likely isn't going to be a superstar so I don't actually think the difference between Miller +15 OA and Severson + 2OA is very significant one way or another, although I think Miller is a significantly more valuable player than Severson.

After reading Jfresh's valuation of Miller at Holtz, Graves, Zacha and a 3rd from NJ I figured this was close.

I also see Hoglander to have a much greater ceiling than McLeod and the 2nd reflects that.

In terms of likelihood, you are correct but that's not really the fun of the site.

Forum: Armchair-GM11 janv. 2022 à 1 h 39

Sujet: Help me settle a debate especially non-canuck fans Would you

Thoughts on long term implications, no resign for Klingberg let him walk at end of the year, still a good move? I forgot to include that aspect.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 juill. 2021 à 14 h 29

Sujet: Read descript

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>the Pesce trade is just a placeholder for someone worse because we would not get Pesce for this deal.

Also ignoring term this is just to look at this year coming.

I doubt this is plausible but idk for sure.</div></div>

Just read the description dude.....

Forum: Armchair-GM27 juill. 2021 à 13 h 43

Sujet: Sorting the Defense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Not sure what will happen with that, I just know that our cap situation will be somewhat tight.</div></div>

As with most teams! I saw some other Dallas made proposals for Schmidt so thought I would take a crack at it

Forum: Armchair-GM27 juill. 2021 à 13 h 41

Sujet: kaprizov come home

You've got 300k to sign 9 players the following year....

Forum: Armchair-GM27 juill. 2021 à 13 h 38

Sujet: Sorting the Defense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Dallas has 5.8 million dollars in cap space without a full roster, Schmidt's cap hit is 5.95.</div></div>

Fair enough, I thought Bishop would be LTIR/retire but I haven't kept up on his status.

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