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Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. 2023 à 22 h 9
Sujet: What the isles should do from here if we are buyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>yeah absolutely agree. absolute worst case scenario for any franchise is that they become what the sharks are now. too many long-term deals that are untradeable so it's hard to jumpstart a rebuild by getting assets in return for your veterans with no high-end young pieces, and this team is on that path. just really hard to watch them play and even harder to watch them shoot themselves in the foot like this. i'm a mets fan too and honestly that season can't come soon enough. people complain about eppler not adding more at the deadline last year but at least the mets have a clear long-term vision for the team and franchise and i can see them taking the steps to get there.</div></div>

yeah Im a big fan of what eppler has done. He's evolved a bit and is targeting players with good analytics. They have a ton of star power and a great prospect pool. Alvarez and Baty are going to be studs.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. 2023 à 21 h 56
Sujet: What the isles should do from here if we are buyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>i'm so mad that they've chosen this direction, just so mindless and it's going to absolutely screw this team in the future for a barely marginal improvement in the short-term. i might have to tap out for the rest of this season, i'm so exhausted following them doing the wrong things. maybe that makes me a bandwagon but idgaf, i'd rather watch my college basketball team than keep up with this mess.</div></div>

the 09-14 isles were more enjoyable than the past two years. Saw young guys being integrated into the lineup, had top picks (pulock, nelson, lee) that gave you hope for a better future. Now the isles are in a spot where they have no present or future. I'm not going to be blindly optimistic for no reason.

I'm also a Dallas cowboys and mets fan. I've seen plenty of terrible seasons, nothing beats the last two isles seasons. No direction, terrible product. What isles fans don't understand is this is just delaying a rebuild for another season or 2. Look at Montreal, the sharks etc. I'm rooting for them to lose because I believe that will benefit them the most long term, I love hockey so Ill still watch games but I can't root for the isles to win when they are as flawed as they are.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 janv. 2023 à 12 h 1
Sujet: Toews and Mayfield
Both are severe underpays but I don't think either of them are necessarily guys that Boston would want to target, so I think everyone declines?

Toews is playing at a 50 point pace and is a solid middle-6 C. I would assume that Chicago would want a 2nd &amp; a prospect back with full retention (and I think the Hawks could potentially sacrifice a 4th on their end to get a 3rd team in to retain him down to $2.625M.) Keyser is a goalie who's spent his entire career bouncing between the ECHL &amp; AHL so far, so I can't put a ton of value on him; Steen is 24 and hasn't stuck in the NHL yet. Not enough value here for Chicago - but Toews is a center and only a center, so why are you shopping near the top of the market when Toews is a guy who wouldn't necessarily kick Bergeron or Krejci out of their top 6 spots? I think this is the type of value is what Boston should aim to pay for a bottom-6 forward upgrade; Toews just isn't the guy to target.

Mayfield's a 20+ minute, physical RHD. His profile is extremely comparable to Josh Manson's, in terms of performance, with the caveat that Mayfield has much more playoff experience than Manson did at the time of his trade, and Mayfield's full cap hit is less than what Manson's retained hit was last year. I'd argue that the 2nd &amp; a prospect Manson got back is a good place to start, then - which is not here. Adding Craig Smith to the trade means the Isles are also giving you the cap space to make the other trade - so where's the sweetener for them helping you out? A pending UFA like Craig Smith has zero value to a selling team, so if you need his money off your cap, you gotta give something in return.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 janv. 2023 à 20 h 18
Sujet: Yzerman Paid 6M and a 3rd to find out what the Canes knew
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Yzerman has no interest in a 5'9" smallish winger in Voit.

Erik Johnson is a pending UFA. and the 2025 2nd which is 3 drafts away for Sunny isn't happening.

Erne and Maatta for a bunch of meh players and a late 2nd, Pretty sure Yzerman can do better.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>He didn't actually take Tampa to any of these. He left before any of it.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>So love yzerman but he's not infallible. Ned was a miss, this year's been a disaster not that it's all Yzermans fault but he's the man in charge. I think these trades are fair I could see us doing any of them.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I think his scouts he had in Tampa did the heavy lifting. He gets all the credit for other people's work. Like when Chiarelli got credit for Boston's win. Or Stan Bowman for the team Tallon built.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldBoisClubSandwich</b></div><div>TOR also messed up his bluff to Stammer who took less money



Stammer/Hedman were 1/2 overalls while Yzerman drafted Drouin 3, Connelly 6 and Slater Koek 10. TB missed playoffs and had awful years while he was there.



EJ is for COL cap, and Sunny has bottom 6 production and doesn't win FO's, what do you think he's worth??</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>InRodWeTrust</b></div><div>Oh I remember. "You'll have to ask them why they are comfortable doing this". I don't think they were, actually. Mgmt's hand was forced. They were not going to qualify Ned and drag the negotiations out, and so he would have been a UFA within a week. The fact that it only took a 3rd told me other GM's had the same hesitation as the Canes.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Correction Yzweman isn't doing any of that.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>ned was worth the risk at the time. he hasn’t really panned out but it’s not like it’s totally messed up the window or anything. very low risk, high reward and it just didn’t end up working this year. the chiarot situation is way more confusing to me, dude makes seider way worse.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>ned was worth the risk at the time. he hasn’t really panned out but it’s not like it’s totally messed up the window or anything. very low risk, high reward and it just didn’t end up working this year. the chiarot situation is way more confusing to me, dude makes seider way worse.</div></div>

Ned was a great pick up, he played well last year, this year has been tough but that's goalies sometimes. The Chiarot signing was the biggest question mark.

Didn't mean to quote all these for this response.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 janv. 2023 à 11 h 39
Sujet: Zach Benson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>I believe this roster as currently constructed is capable of bottoming out this year lol. Also this team does have the worst wings in the league. That being said a One-Two Punch of Barzal and Nelson is still high end. Pageau and Cizikas can still play even tho idk where they fit long term with Raty coming up. The only real problem contracts belong to Kyle and Josh…. It could be way worse. U can find wings in free agency. Hell you can find guys like Tolvanen and Bemstrom on the waiver wire lol.</div></div>

Nelson is turning 32 next season and he's regressed since last season. Cizikas cannot play, hes terrible. Pageau is a mediocre 3rd liner. Lee is going to regress, beauvillier is terrible.

Buying wings in free agency doesn't make sense because those wings will be approaching 30 YO, this team needs wings in the 21-25 YO range