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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 16 h 38
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Lol, cool story. Too bad ppl thought your trade was terrible, told you why it sucks for Tampa, and then you had nothing good in response but spinning the same false narrative about Tampa having to move him.</div></div>
Ah well, alas. You got me. Excellent debate brother. You made some fantaStic points. I’ll be sure to remember when Tampa rolls into the season with 8/21 players making under 1M. I shall, of course, be sure not to do simple math next time and just listen to fans when they say “we don’t have to get rid of this player”, much like Minnesota, Calgary, Chicago, San Jose and Vegas fans in recent seasons. Being told that we are wrong by these fans, and we were tragically wrong ever time about the cost of Fiala, Fleury, and Neier, has never once backfired.
I will also look into the “algorithm” you said is the basis of this trade.
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 16 h 12
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>21 if they have to. Whatever algorithm the reporter likely used as part of their analysis and calculation of supposed trade value. The analysts you listed and have cited from poorly, have very rarely been right about supposed moves from Tampa, since very little accurate info leaks from Tampa before any deal is basically done. Perhaps if you had done the step of seeing what Tampa actually would want in a trade, a reasonable offer could have been made, but that's quite seldom the case from N.J..fans on here with Tampa trades involving Colton.</div></div>
They didn’t use an algorithm lmfaooooo
Idc what tampas needs are in a cap squeeze trade.
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 15 h 53
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>How are you measuring Ross Colton’s value on the trade market though, without looking at similar comps? And why does this immediately write off the option of a reputable reporter?</div></div>
Write off the opinion based on an “algorithm” (that doesn’t actually exist). Nothing like showing you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about huh?
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 15 h 51
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>It is subpar because it is not what Tampa needs.i'm not sure how many times this can.be said on here by ppl who know Tampa's situation well. Tampa could care less about a later 2nd round pick. If they are going to move a player that is slotted to be a top 6 winger for many years to come, they will need to get back players of value that help them now. A cost controlled 3LD and bottom 6 F is what they would value.
Since they have no need to move him, the acquiring team can meet their price or the trade just doesn't happen. Brisebois should care less what some algorithm says, as he is not in a position to.toss Colton for what another team thinks.is fair,.but what Tampa actually wants(or close to it).
There's really nothing else left to discuss, as I and many Tampa fans.have already made this same position clear on literally dozens of Colton to.N.J threads where N.J..fans make a great offer for them, while not taking into account what Tampa would want and thinking Tampa has little recourse, until once again corrected by Tampa fans.</div></div>
Nothing says “I know the reality of my NHL team more than you” more than telling people your team will happily roll into an NHL season with 21 skaters on the roster
Also what algorithm?
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 15 h 14
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>It is if the acquiring team actually considered Tampa's position and what they would be looking for if Colton was on the table. No one in Tampa cares what one reporter said, Tampa never accepts that offer. There have been at least 4 or 5 offers from other teams on here that beat that easily. More than a couple of teams would be interested, and a 2nd round pick is quickly rejected.</div></div>
“On here”
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 55
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>More likely than the latest trash offer for Colton from N.J. fans on here lol.</div></div>
A 2nd round pick for a 26 year old dude with a career high 39 points is not a trash offer.
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 14 h 4
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>While the analytics may say that a 2nd rounder is a good return for Colton, this has little to do with the reality of building an actual roster. Trading Colton for a pick makes Tampa a weaker team headed into next season. They are in full blown "win now" mode. This has been discussed at nauseam on this site, but Tampa is going to make the deal that brings them the best possible NHL roster player(s) over a pick 10 times out of 10. Regardless of what Shatna's algorithms may say.</div></div>
This is a stunning misunderstanding of what Shayna does lmfao
Man every time a team needs to dump cap on this site, the home team fans always think they’ll be able to address their team needs in the process and it just never happens
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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 13 h 31
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>It's a very easy decline from Tampa. A 2nd round pick both does nothing for Tampa now, and it isn't enough anyway. It's great that a writer for the Athletic believes he may be worth something, and when they are an actual GM dealing with Tampa, Tampa fans might care. Tampa is very likely not trading Colton anyway, but if they were to, it would be for the deal they want, not accepting a mediocre return. If N.J. wants him, Tampa would consider it for Bahl+either Boqvist or McLeod, in exchange for Colton+Fleury+mid round pick/B prospect. If Bahl isn't available, Tampa moves on to.another team.</div></div>
Lmk how that goes :)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 12 h 23
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>Then she has completely not payed any attention to TB over the last 4 years because anyone who believes that is a complete moron.</div></div>
Yeah man, shayna, a national analytics and fantasy writer, probably hasn’t followed the team that’s been in 3/4 most recent cup finals. Good call bud
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 12 h 3
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>What does Julien Brisebois have to do to prove to people he doesn't value picks? This is an utterly useless return for TB. What rational person believes this would be accepted by TB?</div></div>
Shayna Goldman, apparently. I’d call her rational
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 11 h 44
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
The athletic can go f themselves if they think this is close Bhahahahahahaha.
Colton STARTS WITH BAHL OR NJ CAN POUND SAND
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juin 2023 à 11 h 49
Sujet:
Restore the Shore and robbinsville
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>The athletic can go f themselves if they think this is close Bhahahahahahaha.
Colton STARTS WITH BAHL OR NJ CAN POUND SAND</div></div>
I’ll pass on your message.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2023 à 12 h 35
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>Oh? How?
Or is that response going to just be a fallacy too? Lol</div></div>
The fallacy is your hockey knowledge.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 21 h 14
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Then I guess Thompson was a bust prior to breaking out? Lol</div></div>
I mean yeah. Unless Kakko has some spectacularly rare breakout like Thompson, then yes he is a bust. Thompson breakout is an anomaly. Basically a miracle that hardly ever happens. He was also not a 2nd overall either so expectations were lower to begin with.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 21 h 15
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>The ignorance is astounding.
(Habs fans)</div></div>
I'd happily have him on the Canucks for a 3rd and 4th
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 21 h 54
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Kreider Mika Kakko 1st line was among the best in the league lol Gallant was too stubborn to keep them together</div></div>
And thats definitely unfortunate, but it shows Kakko is not a playdriver. He plays well with good linemates, but doesn't generate much for himself
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 21 h 58
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>And thats definitely unfortunate, but it shows Kakko is not a playdriver. He plays well with good linemates, but doesn't generate much for himself</div></div>
Guess we’ll see how he does under an aggressive offense with Laviolette
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 18 h 59
Sujet:
Some good news for Calgary
It's for the best.
Should have happened last year when Gaudreau left. Now they're forced into a rebuild. Not a bad thing.
If they kept all of these guys, when that new arena opens in 4-5 years, they'd have an old, slow and likely bad team. This at least gives them a shot at a good, young team when that billion dollar building opens.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 18 h 49
Sujet:
Some good news for Calgary
Still more realistic than some of their lindholm and Hanifin trades
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 11 h 56
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>I meant more of taking the trade angle for Goodrow and pairing him with picks+ or whatever it would take to avoid the buyout route entirely.
The rangers at the very least SHOULD value KK that way. It’s hard to predict a front office that James Dolan is influencing though. Couple years ago when he was focusing more on ruining the Knicks, and I would have a lot more faith in their value assessments lol</div></div>
I definitely agree. Dolan is probably the main reason why they sped up the rebuild instead of taking the correct course like the devils did
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 11 h 42
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>I never thought he was a bust tbf. I’m actually very high on him, and in a vaccum, or just with NY in a slightly better cap situation, I would absolutely give up more. Him and Jack Hughes (ironically) could be a dominant pair on a line.
Just can’t justify it here when those assets are going to be used to get out of the Goodrow contract, and get through this year before the cap increases</div></div>
A goodrow buy-out doesn’t affect the cap next year and the following year. It hurts 3 years down the road and by then Panarin and Trouba will be near the end of their contracts, on top of the cap suppose to be going up a lot more
Plus I think the rangers would value their only top 6 RW over a lot of other positions on the roster
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 10 h 56
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>And that’s fine. I’m just saying they’re all going to likely be considered lowball offers given the cap situation NYR is in right now</div></div>
It’s just funny how devil fans have been calling Kakko a bust and here we are trading for him
But they’ll be fine and have no trouble re-signing Kakko after next year lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 10 h 37
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
Early 3rd and 4th is way too rich of an ask for mcloud
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 10 h 33
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
I'd like to buy from CGY :)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2023 à 10 h 8
Sujet:
Spitballing some different deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>https://www.capfriendly.com/players/joel-armia
Oh really?</div></div>
The ignorance is astounding.
(Habs fans)
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