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Steven_Dean
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Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2017 à 13 h 52
Sujet: Deadline deal that just makes too much sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I think it does too but i'd prefer this. IMO

Sedin 50%
Sedin 50%
Edler

for

Plekanec
Davidson
Sherbak
Juulsen
2018 1st</div></div>

Adding Edler will not happen without adding significantly more. Though I do agree the both Sedins will have to be 50% retained to make it fit.

The original trade could happen but many more picks have to be included. Montreal also might not have to include Plekanec's contract if they do not add much salary as they would have over $30M in deadline cap space as of today. I'm thinking the only way Vancouver does this is for something like:

H. Sedin ($3.5M)
D. Sedin ($3.5M)
Gudbranson

For:

Scherbak
Juulsen
Fucale
2018 1st
2018 2nd
Conditional 2019 pick (1st if Montreal makes the Stanley Cup finals or resigns any one player, 2nd round pick otherwise)

It is a lot to pay but each Sedin on their own is worth one high priced rental (considering lesser rentals go for a 1st and prospect have each Sedin go for a blue chip prospect, 1st, and other piece is fair especially at 50%). With both and Gudbranson added the cost will be completely nuts.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 juill. 2017 à 15 h 5
Sujet: Duchene take #2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SuprDave45</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steven_Dean</b></div><div>There is nothing here that convinces Colorado to trade Duchene AND retain salary. DeAngelo is a good piece but is still a piece, not a blue chip potential top line guy. Gropp is a good prospect but that is it. The 1st isn't even in 2018, you managed to under offer in all ways.

The only way Colorado bites on this is if you swap Gropp for Miller or Hayes and make the 1st in 2018. This deal is miles away from the price you got for Stepan and Duchene is arguably a better player and younger.</div></div>

How is Deangelo not a blue chip/potential top line guy? This is based on what?

Your saying we got a better haul for Stepan, where do you get this from? It was a 1st rounder + Deangelo...and we had to include Raanta in the deal. Your getting a 1st rounder...Deangelo...another prospect AND another pick. That is most definitely more than the Stepan deal...which it should be because I agree Duchene is better...but lets not act like they are miles apart.

Hayes + Deangelo...2019 1st &amp; 2020 3rd.
You get a replacement for Duchene, which the line between Hayes and Duchene is not that far apart either. You get a top pair offensive dman, not sure where you get this idea he isnt a blue chipper...but in either case, look around the league at what it costs for right handed offensive dmen. And you get a 1st &amp; 3rd. Anything more is just silly to bother asking for....your not trading Niklas Backstrom for God's sake...the guy had 41 points and was a -34 last year!!! He had a 70 point season once, he is not an elite level player, you can't ask for an elite price.

So we don't have to go back and fourth, here is some perspective:

Derek Stepan - 7 seasons = 128g/232a = 360 points + 109
Matt Duchene - 8 seasons = 174g/244a = 418 points - 61

Don't think Stepan can score 58 points in his 8th season to fill the gap? This is almost evidence that Stepan can be argued to be just as good! i don't believe he is, but the difference is minor, you are clearly overvaluing your own player!

You could argue that taking the package I just offered...Colorado would be BETTER than last year by adding Deangelo (Hayes washes out Duchene) and most certainly better in the future because both players are younger AND you got picks. it's like you guys traded Duchene...got a return...and still have him on the team, what more can you ask for??? lol</div></div>


Hahahahahahaha you guys go ahead and think that 7th overall pick is anywhere close to worth Gropp, 2019 1st &amp; 2020 3rd. Especially after admitting that Duchene is worth more. Whatever you say fellas. lol
Forum: Armchair-GM11 juill. 2017 à 13 h 54
Sujet: Staal gone... Nashville Trade... Cap Space for a Winger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barathrum_Obama</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steven_Dean</b></div><div>Oh I should point out. If the Rangers didn't have one of their players apply for salary arbitration then they cannot buy anyone out this year. The 2nd buyout window is only available for teams who had players apply for arbitration.</div></div>

Fast filed too but they settled beforehand. think the written file is the only requirement, not an actual hearing.

€: palhal:
big minutes are on McD, Shattenkirk, Skjei and Smith. DeAngelo and Bereglazov can be sheltered into their respective roles. McD has dragged around much worse players for the better parts of his career. the problem with Staal is sitting 5,7M in cap space. the alternative is him taking up a roster spot that we could give to Bereglazov. a team that's high on its veterans will probably struggle with kicking out 3 of their 4 A's in one offseason (Stepan, Girardi, maybe Staal) too.</div></div>

Yes the written file is perfect. They can buy him out.

As for the difference in buyout between this year and next year it is basically the same. You gain $3.6M in relief this year, have the same cap hit (minus like $100k to wait) in years 2-7 and then $1.4M in 24-25 versus $0.

If they were considering just buying him out then doing it now is more advantageous. Oh and cap hits to buy him out now are (approximately):

$2.1M
$2.1M
$3.1M
$3.9M
$1.4M
$1.4M
$1.4M
$1.4M
Forum: Armchair-GM11 juill. 2017 à 13 h 47
Sujet: Tatar/Bozak
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AZWings</b></div><div>Tatar will want $5M+, a Pittsburgh 2nd rounder is another team's 3rd round pick, and you want us to take back an iffy D prospect? Doubt it. But if you take Helm (rather than Bozak) and DRW retains some salary we'll take a 1st and a 3rd, Sheary, and Pouilot. :)</div></div>

That won't happen. Helm's contract is looking like it may be a crutch at the moment and adding more value and taking back more cap is not a good move. Heck Sheary for Tatar straight up has the potential to pay off for Detroit so getting a 2nd and taking a flyer on Pouliot IMO is worth it, especially with Detroit's cap issues.

As for the Bozak deal, the value is good but since Toronto would have to go out and get another C, retaining cap and getting yet another depth winger is a waste to them and a straight loss.