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Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 20
Sujet:
Apparent Signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>I feel like from what we’ve seen recently vegas gets “taxed” in trades because of the way they do business. If fleury or Pacioretty were getting traded from any other team I doubt all they get is future considerations</div></div>
They got taxed for freeing up 7M this is doing the Iles a favor lol
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Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 18
Sujet:
The future considerations come into play
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cardiac</b></div><div>Are the canes desperate though? If they were desperate wouldn’t they have paid to get patches? If they were desperate would they have let every UFA walk? This is more so just capitalizing on the knights woes. The knights had 3 players on pace for 30 goals last season and one is on Carolina. The knights had 6 players on pace for over 20 goals and 4 are still on the team. Carolina had 6 players on pace for over 20 goals. 2 are gone but the canes added patches who was on pace for 40 but is now injured and kase who was on pace for 20. Not to mention the canes can expect big years from necas and KK. This offensive core looks better even with the patches injury. The canes imo have 4 or 5 players who could score 30. Aho and svech who did it last year. Jarvis who was on pace for 20 as a rookie playing 4th line minutes. Necas had a down year last year that had him struggling with the effects of Covid and being in RBAs doghouse. He still put up 40 points When he was playing with competent players he was great. Turbo was on a similar G/60 pace as Jarvis and turbo is a pass first player. KK scored every single one of his goals at even strength. With the opening of the PP 2C with the trocheck departure, I expect at least 20 goals. Of the players projected to be in the canes top 6 now that patches is injured, the oldest is turbo who will be 28 and the rest will be 25 or younger. Jarvis will be 20, KK Aand svech will be 22, necas will be 23, and aho will be 25. If that doesn’t scream this team is still growing I don’t know what does. So the point I am trying to make, marchessault is a luxury to the canes, not a necessity.</div></div>
And you just proved why Vegas wouldn't make that move. They already moved two of their 6 so you propose they move a third? Players have more value to different teams depending on the situation and Marchessault is among the players Vegas refuses to move. They could have moved him and gotten a return but chose to dump Patches.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 12
Sujet:
Help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Isles don’t have to trade Varly cause Kadri hasn’t been officially signed 🤷♂️😂</div></div>
Ok so Vegas just waits until training camp where Kadri forces the issue. Vegas has goalies to fill the net already. Good luck fitting everything with that time crunch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 8
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Agree to disagree. I respect the win now strategy and the chaos that ensues but I don’t think I’d be happy as a fan of the team.</div></div>
Never said I was happy with the outcome but as someone that has followed all of their moves I see their long term plans. Ownership was drooling over Eichel for over a year and "needed" a 1C forcing them to change the plan. They were set up to run with Krebs and Tuch last year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 4
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Next offseason is a different market and goaltender market is a different market altogether anyway. Vegas has been playing for the now and fix it later since year 2. With both Lehner and Ullmark on board and both having limited trade protection they move the one they can for the best return they can get. Any return is better than no return of a rental. Just do it before free agency.</div></div>
Lehner is a full NTC and Ullmark is half the league but yes limited trade protection. Next offseason is looking the same as this one expect this one had a lot of long term contracts signed shrinking the cap significantly. Now who is moving the goal posts on their argument?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 16 h 0
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>The majority of their existence and many of the deals they’ve made over the last 2 years specifically show a disregard for long term planning or the future.</div></div>
I will have to disagree with you. Eichel was onwership forcing the front office to change plans but other than that I don't see how they didn't think long term. The majority of their bigger players have been locked up since year 2. They moved on from an older goalie for a younger one (injuries crewed that up).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 50
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Lol, wrong.</div></div>
This offseason find me a trade where a team was trading to make cap space got a good return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 49
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>To be fair, VGK doesn’t tend to look into the future as they make moves. A very much only now matters approach.</div></div>
Oh they look ahead. Getting rid of Allan Walsh was the plan. They got burned for it but that was the plan.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 48
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>They can trade him in the offseason and recoup assets. His NMC is gone then.</div></div>
You will notice teams that are forced to move a player for cap reasons tend to get screwed. You aren't recouping anything from that situation especially a 16 team M-NTC
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 44
Sujet:
Yikes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Varly has a 16 team NTC. Could be equally problematic. Ullmark wants to be a 1 and played for Cassidy. I’d say there is a good chance he waives for Vegas.</div></div>
The 3 years is the issue. Lehner is back next year with 3 years and also paid 5M. Thompson is the backup/starter of the future signed for 3 years. So Ullmark won't work
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
11 août 2022 à 15 h 36
Sujet:
Vegas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kevinbergeron</b></div><div>Yeah but its like the kuemper deal vegas has no levrage and brossoit have almost no value</div></div>
I mean Iles have no cap space and going after Kadri sooooo they have less leverage.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 32
Sujet:
Lehners Replacement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheHebrewHammer</b></div><div>If all Vegas is giving up is a 2nd, Islanders would 1000% be asking for Logan Thompson</div></div>
Iles need cap space more than Vegas does atm so no
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 26
Sujet:
The future considerations come into play
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cardiac</b></div><div>Idk man. Cant contend when you don’t have a starting goalie. A forward like March is much easier to replace than a starting goalie. I would rather have March but if I’m vegas I would give him up to get a starting goalie.</div></div>
Cassidy's systems are designed to make it easier on goalies. They have a good D core. With Lehner LTIR for the season they can add to their forward core. I know I am looking at it with optimism but Vegas' forward core is built to be defense first (minus Eichel).
30 goals isn't that easy to replace or else the Canes wouldn't be as desperate as they are for a goal scorer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 19
Sujet:
The future considerations come into play
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cardiac</b></div><div>Why would the canes take on lehner? He’s on the LTIR for vegas, not counting against cap. Raanta is the goalie for the year for vegas here because he is clearly better than all of the healthy goalies in vegas’ system. I don’t think you are looking at how well he played in a starting roll in the playoffs. Anyways this move makes sense for vegas as they are getting rid of $10m total dollars for $2m. The cap is a problem for vegas and given the knights recent moves, this is better return than anything else they have done in terms of trades. Vegas gets cap relief, a starting goalie in a year where theirs just went down, and a prospect and pick. This makes so much sense for vegas and saves them $3m this year and $5m next year.</div></div>
Vegas is LTIR this year so saving 3M this year is pointless. They aren't saving 5M next year because they need to replace Marchessault.
Rantaa is good but you don't over pay for a goalie you can't keep next year, hence why I asked if Carolina is taking Lehner too.
Why would Vegas trade their best goal scorer for a starter? Especially after moving Patches. Vegas still wants to be a contender and this doesn't help them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 13
Sujet:
Lehner Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Even if Thompson is good, they will need Hutchinson to be hot, or Thompson to be great and play a ton of games until Brossoit is back. Otherwise, they are probably struggling to make it into a wild card position.</div></div>
Well they have two choices. Stack their forwards with UFA letting their AHL bets develop or over pay for a goalie to play for 1 year and force players that may not be ready to play in the NHL.
Brossoit had his surgery in May and should be back within the first month or two. I would be more willing to bet on their goaltending under Cassidy and stack the forward group than throw assets at a goalie rental than they will lose after this season.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 5
Sujet:
The future considerations come into play
Is Carolina taking Lehner too? If not this makes zero sense before taking into account they aren't moving Marchessault
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 3
Sujet:
Hey Vegas
Vegas isn't trading for a goalie with more than 1 year left and never paying this ransom.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 2
Sujet:
Yikes
Varly only makes sense because he is on his last year. This won't work with 3 years and a NMC.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 15 h 0
Sujet:
Help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Please see Darcy Kuemper trade for more details on how Vegas should proceed</div></div>
Lou is in as much of a corner. Good luck thinking the Iles will get more than a second.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2022 à 17 h 42
Sujet:
Eichel-less VGKverse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Perdikkas</b></div><div>Eichel is a locker room cancer, seems like a punk, I am not rooting for him</div></div>
At William Karlsson's wedding, playing charity baseball with the guys and seen hanging out at every team get together. Absolute locker room cancer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2022 à 13 h 13
Sujet:
Eichel-less VGKverse
Eichel played less than half a season with a broken thumb. No wonder people call Vegas fans annoying if they whine this much
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2022 à 13 h 10
Sujet:
One More Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IDKtbh</b></div><div>I’m aware. I actually started a deal with VGK to trade for Roy since he has yet to be signed and will likely eat up about $3m+ AAV alone.
Right, and those guys will probably cost more than that amount combined. So, someone else will need to be moved, maybe one of them.</div></div>
Roy's comparable is not $3M+ he passed on arbitration and is completely under team control so he can't ask for more than the team is willing to give. He is the 4th best center on the team. Engvall is probably his closest comparable and he signed sub 2M.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
29 juill. 2022 à 11 h 27
Sujet:
Injury prone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>But he didn't. Players play through all sorts of sh*t. If we're talking about everything ever player plays through, EVERYONE is injury prone.</div></div>
https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2020/8/9/21361075/max-pacioretty-injury-update-return-game-1-vegas-golden-knights-chicago-blackhawks-2020-nhl-playoffs
"Pacioretty had an undisclosed injury during training camp and has not practiced since July 19. He didn’t travel with Vegas to Edmonton, the Western Conference hub city, on July 26 and missed three round-robin games in the Stanley Cup Qualifiers."
He was going to be scratched before the shutdown due to an injury and barely "recovered" in time for the bubble. During the playoffs Patches has spurts of himself but he wasn't ready to come back. Every playoff run Patches is notorious to fall off when he gets hurt because it happens every year. Yes I know everyone gets hurt in the playoffs but its always him.
https://dknation.draftkings.com/2020/7/7/21316106/golden-knights-injury-updates-news-mark-stone-max-pacioretty-stanley-cup-odds
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Fauteuil - DG
29 juill. 2022 à 10 h 29
Sujet:
Injury prone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Pacioretty played all of Vegas' 71 games during the season cut short due to the pandemic</div></div>
And had a bummed wrist right as the league shut down. He was projected to miss the last part of the season and probably the first round.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
29 juill. 2022 à 8 h 44
Sujet:
Injury prone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I disagree with Freddie being here. I take injury prone to mean a different injury affecting them all the time. Freddie doesn't have that. He's had the same mcl injury since he was a leaf and was made to play through it.
I also disagree with Pacioretty. Not including this most recent year, he only missed 22 games in 3 years, and played the entire 2019-20 season that was cut short to COVID. I think he's mislabelled.
I'd add Ondrej Kase though</div></div>
Patches was out for months before the bubble. He was injured just before the pandemic. Injured the same wrist for the last 3 years. He was injured for half of the 2021 playoffs.
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