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Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 49
Sujet:
Dream Horvat Trade
Why exactly are the Blue Jackets, a team currently 22 points out of a wildcard spot, trading for a rental?
Why are the Blue Jackets, currently the 31st ranked team in the NHL, including the 2023 1st rounder in a trade for a rental? That pick has one of the highest odds of becoming Bedard and at worst becomes a top pick in a franchise altering draft.
Why are the Blue Jackets, a team that you just had trading a lottery ticket for Connor Bedard, also adding in their most recent 1st rounder, taken 6th overall?
Why are the Blue Jackets, a team you have already decimated with this poorly thought out trade, then adding in Sillinger? He’s a high pedigree guy that’s already an NHL impact player at 19.
Why are the Blue Jackets, a team that you have already driven to the edge of extinction, then adding in another NHL player for good measure? Was the entire stripping of their prospect pool not enough?
I have been on Capfriendly for a while, but this is hands down the worst thought out trade I have ever seen on this godforsaken site.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
23 déc. 2022 à 15 h 33
Sujet:
BOS-CHI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Disclaimer: Not a fan of either of these teams but just basing it off of recent reports linking Kane to Boston. If Bussi + 2023 1st isn't enough value, I also considered adding Brett Harrison heading back to Chicago so let me know if that would get it over the line.</div></div>
Highly doubtful he's enough. 4 garbage cap dumps plus 50% retention is gonna take Lysell and a couple other picks added in
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
22 déc. 2022 à 10 h 31
Sujet:
SEA-PHI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Fair point, does Donato add or remove value to the return in your eyes?</div></div>
He's just a body / cap slide. doesn't really add or subtract from the value, esp since he's a UFA after the season
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
22 déc. 2022 à 17 h 8
Sujet:
SEA-PHI
Yeah JVR probably only gets a 2nd with half retained, depending on whether or not he hits one of his hot streaks before the deadline
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 déc. 2022 à 20 h 40
Sujet:
SEA-PHI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Second on its own or with the prospects included above?</div></div>
Well, Donato isn't really a prospect, he's been in the league for 6 years. he's a Torts kinda guy though. Goyette isn't much. both can be left in
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 déc. 2022 à 19 h 32
Sujet:
VAN-TOR
OK, We'll bite. But It doesn't work without a cap dump, so Kerfoot would have to go back to VAN as well
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 déc. 2022 à 20 h 40
Sujet:
VAN-TOR
I wonder what Canucks50 will say about this.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 déc. 2022 à 20 h 6
Sujet:
SEA-PHI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Disclaimer: I am a Canucks fan so don't know much about the value of any of these assets besides first-glance at stats on CF. I was torn between a 1st or 2nd from SEA so also consider this proposal if that were the case.</div></div>
I can guarantee JVR will not get a first even with 50% retained. I do think the second is doable.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
20 déc. 2022 à 12 h 2
Sujet:
VAN-OTT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Fair enough on the Jarventie front, I am basing this trade on Friedman's report that the Sens are looking to upgrade the d-core on the trade market. Not only does this trade immediately improve Hamonic into Schenn, but also adds cap space to make a corresponding move. Would a lesser prospect or draft pick get it done from your perspective? Ostapchuk/Pettersson/Johansson?</div></div>
It all depends on what OTT's plan for Schenn was. If they were acquiring him so that they could sign him before he hits free agency, then a lesser prospect or mid round pick would work. But with them not being in playoff contention, it doesn't make sense IMO to trade any prospects of picks for him unless there is a future plan.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
19 déc. 2022 à 18 h 41
Sujet:
VAN-OTT
I can't see OTT giving up Jarventie for Schenn. They'll just wait till the offseason to sign him,
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
18 déc. 2022 à 16 h 26
Sujet:
VAN-NYI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Disclaimer: Assuming Holmstrom gets sent down, Bailey moves down to the third line, Horvat enters as a top-6 C and Nelson moves to the wing. Keep in mind that I am a Canucks fan before berating my assessment.</div></div>
Nelson hasn’t played wing since the 2014. He’s been playing like a 1st line center the past 2 seasons which is why Horvat doesn’t make sense for the isles
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Trade Machine Proposals
18 déc. 2022 à 15 h 47
Sujet:
VAN-NYI
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Disclaimer: Assuming Holmstrom gets sent down, Bailey moves down to the third line, Horvat enters as a top-6 C and Nelson moves to the wing. Keep in mind that I am a Canucks fan before berating my assessment.</div></div>
I don’t think ur asking price is unreasonable, but I don’t think Horvat is the guy the Islanders should target at the deadline. From an organizational standpoint they need a winger way more than Horvat. Especially with Raty in the wings.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2022 à 11 h 47
Sujet:
JT Miller Trade Proposal
Would be shocked if Pitt traded Poulin. It makes much more sense for Kapanen to be the forward coming back in a miller trade. JR loves him and has said they want more speed in VAN.
The base trade which I think is fair is
Kapanen +1st + Marino --> Miller (no $ retained)
any alteration to that trade would just mean equal value added to the other side IMO
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 févr. 2022 à 17 h 10
Sujet:
Bruins TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>but like I said, I also think it will take multiple avenues of serious interest for it to reach this price, and in the end if we don't reach this threshold then we should hold onto him until the offseason, allow him to improve his value, and when the price comes down to just a full season of JT Miller, more teams can bid ontop of eachother.</div></div>
That would be the smart thing to do but I think the reason guys like garland, miller, boeser are even being considered in trade talks is due to the need for cap space
Canucks currently have 2.85 mill in cap while also having hamonic and sutter on LTIR, they will need to resign Boeser and Motte this offseason and they have no big contracts coming off the books
i see myers and hamonic near immovable unless cancuks retain but no shot canucks retain on myers when they are trying to clear cap not pay for a player to be on another team
poolman's contract would be tough to move and you will get pennys to the dollar for him at best
Moving pearson screws over their forward depth with no true replacement and he is on a relatively good contract for what he does so i don't see management wanting to move him
in the next 2 offseasons they have to re-sign miller, boeser who will probably both warrent a 7-8.5 mill contract and horvat probably around 6- 7.5 mill contract and in those 2 offseasons no big contracts except hamonic's 3 mill and luongo's 3 mill recapture come off the books now also you have to play the factor that canucks definitely need some big improvements on the defence outside of OEL who will probably start declining in the next few years and his contract will also then become immovable and then also quinn hughes canucks lack another dman who should be played in the top4
so in 2 years they clear around 31.15 mill in contracts which is a lot of cap
heres canucks needs
Resign Miller 7.5 mill
Resign Boeser 7.5 mill
Resign Horvat 6.5 mill
Resign Hoglaner 4 mill minimum if he doesn't completely breakout and become a good top 6 scorer and warrant more
Resign Motte 2 mill
Resign Rathbone 1.1 mill few other bottom line/ pair and depth guys too you might want to resign so add an extra 1.5 mill minimum there
now what else does van need to add to compete
1. Back up goalie
2. 2 Top 4 dmen
3. 2 forwards either 3rd or 4th liners
so minus all those players that need to be resigned that leaves van with 1.05 mill to sign a back up goalie, depth forwards and 2 top 4 dmen even if you clear myers cap 7.05 mill still isn't enough to fill all those holes add on that canucks don't have the greatest prospect pool so that can internally fill there holes they need to clear cap
i know miller is great and definitely deserves a value around 2-3 1sts but canucks are in deep cap **** and teams will take advantage of that look at vegas, vegas is gonna get minimal returns on martinez, dadonov, or smith due to the fact they need to move cap.
If canucks wait till next season to move miller his value will drop no matter how well he plays as it's no longer a question that cancuks will need to move one of horvat or miller just so they can have a full 21 man roster that can actually compete not to mention they are UFA's and that will hinder their value slightly aswell
Right now Miller's value is currently at it's highest but if they set the price to high and to out of reach for teams that do want to acquire him they will pay the price and lose out on value
atleast if they clear miller's 5.25 now and avoid having to pay 7+ mill that leaves them with around 14.05 mill to work with while also acquiring a 1st a young player a B tier prospect and a 3rd or 2nd
they can have a top 6 of Bo, Petey, Garland, Boeser, Hoglander and then that leaves them with 14 mill to acquire 2 good dmen which they need badly and also have cap left over to get an extra solid 3rd liner and a good backup goalie they will be a much more competive team there rather then if they stay in this cap crunch to long and get greedy in trade and then have no depth or solid top 4 RHD's and could potentially ruin their best years at competing
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2022 à 12 h 53
Sujet:
Building Off Miller Returns to New York
No way the Canucks retain 50% on Miller and not get a 1st or Schneider, if not both
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2022 à 12 h 34
Sujet:
Rangers Bring Back Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>I’m with you man! Like I said wasn’t sure of the value whatsoever but as a Nucks fan the more the better.
Cheers for the reply!</div></div>
I dont think the deal is far off though, I think the 1st has to be involved and Kratsov is a ?. I dont think the Canucks would love schnieder for a partner for Hughes, but that is a big ask....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2022 à 12 h 7
Sujet:
Rangers Bring Back Miller
If Vancouver is retaining Money, Kratsov is not part of the deal, its another prospect and its defintly a 1st with a conditional 2nd
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2022 à 11 h 26
Sujet:
Building Off Miller Returns to New York
IMO, you get a 1st back for Miller w/o conditions (Aside from maybe lotto protected or something like that...).
My thoughts-You're retaining 50% for 1.25 years=Krav.
Millers value-1st+Nils or Schneider.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 janv. 2022 à 12 h 43
Sujet:
JT Miller Trade Deadline
I think maybe you get 3 pieces back for Miller, not 4. Regardless of what the fan base says, anyone trading for Miller is giving up a VERY good prospect and a first round pick plus a lesser pick/prospect. Rutherford won’t make the deal unless he is getting quality back, it’s as simple as that. Not too familiar with the Flames kids, but Rossi, Lysell, Lundkvust/Schneider would definitely be THE components from those respective teams. Rangers are gonna make it happen IMO. Good job.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 32
Sujet:
Offseason after Miller trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>Drury counters with Jared Tinordi for JT with 50% retention plus 2 years of 1st round picks</div></div>
This isn't as good of a point as you think. Stop commenting it on every Miller trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 janv. 2022 à 23 h 31
Sujet:
Nashville Fans Get In Here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>I’m just expecting a bidding war and could see the price getting up to a third for a third pairing guy making league minimum, of course I’m no NHL GM.</div></div>
Good luck
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 janv. 2022 à 18 h 25
Sujet:
Chychrun cost and Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>If I'm the Panthers, Anton Lundell is near untouchable in any trade. He is in the first year of his ELC and already on a 50-point pace. You're talking about a guy who is making $1M this season when his production would dictate at least $5M once extended, and he is only twenty.</div></div>
I agree. As good as Chychrun is, Florida would be foolish to make this deal. I'm just going off what the reports say.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 janv. 2022 à 20 h 50
Sujet:
Canucks Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>Same question to you. If it's Kravtsov what are your thoughts?</div></div>
Kravstov is all ours, but not sure how many picks would go with him. Kravstov and a 1st is fine and maybe another pick like a 3rd of 4th.
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Armchair-GM
18 janv. 2022 à 20 h 59
Sujet:
Canucks Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Randominoe</b></div><div>I think if we are retaining salary, which certainly doesn't have to happen, then the first is in there 100%. Not too informed on either of the other players mentioned but I still feel we need more.</div></div>
Honestly, it is what it is. I think we can afford to resign Miller, making the consolidation of assets worth it.
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