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Dream Horvat Trade

Créé par: Leroy2381
Publié: 16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 33
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/185 (23%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusBlue Jackets de Columbus

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nyquist, GustavBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-5 500 000 $011---4281018--
Sillinger, ColeExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-925 000 $011---38257--
Jiricek, DavidExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusMineures-0 $011---2000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusCBJ)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Horvat, BoCanucks de VancouverLNH-5 500 000 $011---43301848--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial7 645 833 $2344593712
Variation925 000 $-1-2-2000
Final8 570 833 $ (↑)22 (↓)42 (↓)57 (↓)371220323

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Horvat, BoCanucks de VancouverLNH-5 500 000 $011---43301848--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nyquist, GustavBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-5 500 000 $011---4281018--
Sillinger, ColeExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-925 000 $011---38257--
Jiricek, DavidExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusMineures-0 $011---2000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusCBJ)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 477 500 $2347693511
Variation-925 000 $122000
Final552 500 $ (↓)24 (↑)49 (↑)71 (↑)3511-20-3-23
Is this fair? Assuming extension agreed to for Horvat
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16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 35
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Apparently Vancouver is looking for roster players over picks and prospects
16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 36
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We’d have to give up Pettersson for that type of return, and it would be Columbus’ 2024 1st as there’s no chance they move their 2023 1st
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16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 38
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Yes, Sillinger is a young roster player and Jiricek is potentially ready after hearing analysis of him at World Juniors. Swapping first rd picks potentially gets you a top ten prospect close to NHL ready in a deep 2023 draft.
16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 42
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Most likely never happen, I agree Columbus would not want to trade this years pick but if they get an extension for Horvat, someone they can pair with Gudreau, who knows. Maybe we could add if a deal was ever close, Podkolzin/Hoglander?
16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 49
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Why exactly are the Blue Jackets, a team currently 22 points out of a wildcard spot, trading for a rental?

Why are the Blue Jackets, currently the 31st ranked team in the NHL, including the 2023 1st rounder in a trade for a rental? That pick has one of the highest odds of becoming Bedard and at worst becomes a top pick in a franchise altering draft.

Why are the Blue Jackets, a team that you just had trading a lottery ticket for Connor Bedard, also adding in their most recent 1st rounder, taken 6th overall?

Why are the Blue Jackets, a team you have already decimated with this poorly thought out trade, then adding in Sillinger? He’s a high pedigree guy that’s already an NHL impact player at 19.

Why are the Blue Jackets, a team that you have already driven to the edge of extinction, then adding in another NHL player for good measure? Was the entire stripping of their prospect pool not enough?

I have been on Capfriendly for a while, but this is hands down the worst thought out trade I have ever seen on this godforsaken site.
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16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 59
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WOW, tell me how you really feel. I’m assuming you didn’t read the question I asked about this only being possible with A Horvat extension. Not sure what direction Columbus is taking as signing Gaudreau doesn’t seem like a team with a complete rebuild mentality. Just thought Horvat with an extension would be pretty valuable to a franchise that has struggled to keep their talent in the past.
17 janv. 2023 à 0 h 3
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Quoting: Leroy2381
WOW, tell me how you really feel. I’m assuming you didn’t read the question I asked about this only being possible with A Horvat extension. Not sure what direction Columbus is taking as signing Gaudreau doesn’t seem like a team with a complete rebuild mentality. Just thought Horvat with an extension would be pretty valuable to a franchise that has struggled to keep their talent in the past.


I read it. Why would CBJ do that and give up on their chance at Bedard and 2 of their top young prospects? They can just sign Horvat as a free agent if they really want him.

CBJ has had an awful season but you just traded away two blue chip prospects and one of Bedard/Fantilli/Michkov/Carlsson so they can pay Horvat $8M for an extra year.

This doesn’t come close to working.
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17 janv. 2023 à 0 h 7
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Quoting: Leroy2381
WOW, tell me how you really feel. I’m assuming you didn’t read the question I asked about this only being possible with A Horvat extension. Not sure what direction Columbus is taking as signing Gaudreau doesn’t seem like a team with a complete rebuild mentality. Just thought Horvat with an extension would be pretty valuable to a franchise that has struggled to keep their talent in the past.


Why would CBJ need to pay to trade and extend Bo. If they want him they can hope he hits the open market. It's certainly not worth anything close to this package to save from the risk of him signing before July.

this is still up there with the worst trades on this site. Bo doesn't go to a team that has any chance at Bedard and trying to turn Bo into Connor in one trade is illogical in every way. No team is moving lottery 23 picks especially not a bottom 3 team.
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17 janv. 2023 à 6 h 53
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I would hesitate trading this package for McDavid. For Horvat it would be an absolute travesty and I would expect Jarmo to be fired on the spot.
17 janv. 2023 à 7 h 23
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We’d have to give up Pettersson for that type of return, and it would be Columbus’ 2024 1st as there’s no chance they move their 2023 1st


If you replaced Sillinger with Johnson, then yeah, but if it's Sillinger instead of Johnson plus all the rest for Pettersson, I say columbus needs to add a bit more
17 janv. 2023 à 7 h 45
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If you replaced Sillinger with Johnson, then yeah, but if it's Sillinger instead of Johnson plus all the rest for Pettersson, I say columbus needs to add a bit more


Columbus wouldn't trade their 2023 1st for Skinny Pete either.
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17 janv. 2023 à 8 h 30
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If you replaced Sillinger with Johnson, then yeah, but if it's Sillinger instead of Johnson plus all the rest for Pettersson, I say columbus needs to add a bit more


That’s an insane homer take and I hope you’re kidding.

This could be just the 2023 1st and CBJ says no. That pick is one of the most valuable assets in the league. This trade is so comically lopsided and yet Canucks fans are still trying to get more.
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17 janv. 2023 à 9 h 17
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Quoting: turtlemountain
That’s an insane homer take and I hope you’re kidding.

This could be just the 2023 1st and CBJ says no. That pick is one of the most valuable assets in the league. This trade is so comically lopsided and yet Canucks fans are still trying to get more.


It's not worth wasting time trying to explain how bad this trade is. Expecting 3 top 10 picks for almost any player is ridiculous. Canucks fans want that for a guy who has 1 half season above ppg and is 1 year away from demanding a massive contract.
17 janv. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Fire J.D. too
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Simply put, jackets wouldn't move any of those assets, let alone for a soon to be UFA...smarter to wait until UFA and make the pitch at no extra cost in assets.
27 janv. 2023 à 4 h 51
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Quoting: turtlemountain
That’s an insane homer take and I hope you’re kidding.

This could be just the 2023 1st and CBJ says no. That pick is one of the most valuable assets in the league. This trade is so comically lopsided and yet Canucks fans are still trying to get more.


Okay, make it the 2024 1st, I should have checked what year the pack was in I admit
 
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