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Forum: Armchair-GM28 janv. à 1 h 4
Sujet: Losing eight out of eleven leads us to this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>Which would be significantly less than what is shown here. Calling Tippett a 'top prospect' at that point is a stretch. It was his 3rd NHL season and he had never had much success. He wasn't even eligible for Calder consideration anymore. To turn this into the Giroux trade, you'd be dropping the 2nd to a 3rd and taking Lekkerimäki, who might be the biggest piece of the trade on the Vancouver side, out entirely and delaying the 1st round pick. That's the gap and it's a very significant leap.</div></div>

Because Giroux had significantly less value for a multitude of reasons. Giroux was 34 at the time of the trade, Jake would be 29. Giroux had a full NMC so the flyers had very little leverage. Jake has a 12 team NTC so there would absolutely be bidding war for him. Jake already has more goals and more points in 12 less games than Giroux has at the time of trade. Tippet absolutely was a top prospect. He was only 21 or just turned 22 at the time of the trade and was already getting significant nhl time. It was also only his 2nd nhl season. He played 7 games, which doesn’t count as an nhl season. Then he played 40 something games the following season which was considered his rookie season. So to sum it up, the reason there’s a significant leap in this trade to the Giroux trade is because you’re getting a better player with much more trade value.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 janv. à 17 h 51
Sujet: Losing eight out of eleven leads us to this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>By all means list them here. What you might notice is that the best players available in any given season all fetch around the same price across seasons, it doesn't matter how good they are compared to each other just that they are the best available. The only ones who fetch this kind of price are ones who have either term or extensions in place upon being traded. The idea that Guentzel is the only 'major winger' available is non-sense too. Tarasenko and Toffoli aren't all that far behind him in scoring while playing a lot less ice time. Pacioretty has had a good start in Washington too after not playing for 2 seasons. He should be expected to keep on improving.</div></div>

That is not true at all lol. Giroux was a pending UFA and got a 1st, a 3rd, and top prospect. And that was with Giroux having a NMC and picking where he went.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2023 à 11 h 34
Sujet: NHL insiders take on moving Jake
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>I agree lol 100% I just wondered if NYR would be willing to move their most recent 1st round picks but if they're available I'd obviously prefer them to Cuylle... what are your thoughts on the value of the trade? and would NYR have interest in guentzel?</div></div>

I think Cuylle could be exposed, but not othmann or Perreault. Cuylle has looked decent but dragged down playing with Bonino and/or Wheeler. Othmann will be NHL ready next year, NYR want him to get a full year in the AHL. Only problem is they’re both LW’s unless one of them moves to RW like Laffy did

As awesome as it would be to have Guentzel on the rangers, I don’t want them to give up a ton of assets for a rental. I’m sure Drury will check in on him
Forum: Armchair-GM19 déc. 2023 à 22 h 13