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Forum: Armchair-GM18 mai 2023 à 14 h 35
Sujet: Breaking up the core 4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LegendaryMyGuy</b></div><div>If you are trading Matthews for guys like Durzi, Byfield, Clarke and Turcotte and some picks or a similar package your window to "win now" has undoubtedly closed with no true foresight on how long it will take to contend again. Turcotte and Clark are effectively nothing right now, Durzi has struggled and does not look like more than a fringe top 4 and Byfield has been solid but he's not Auston Matthews. If this is the return for a guy at his worst is an 85 point two way center you might as well prep for the tank again and move off Marner and Nylander as well</div></div>

All a matter of perspective I guess.

5-7 years of trying to run the same roster to no avail, no legitimate cap room to sign existing UFA/RFA's (Bunting, Acciari, O'Reilly, Kerfoot, Kampf, Samsonov, Schenn, Holl, Gustafsson) and no real solid prospects in the system to replace those guys on ELC's

Their window is all but closed at this point.

The question shouldn't be, "can they win a cup next year with the same roster who's failed the previous 5 years to piece together any manageable run?", it should be "How do they ensure they come out of this with pieces in place to not take a step back with upcoming teams with solid prospect pools like Detroit, Ottawa or Montreal"

a roster of

Knies - Tavares - Nylander
Bunting - O'Reilly - Marner
Robertson - Byfield - Acciari
Jarnkrok - Kampf - Lafferty

Likely has a better chance at performing than the current roster, meanwhile stocking the system with a few pieces ie. Turcotte/Clarke or whatever 1st rd picks they get.

Obviously it doesn't have to be LA, but the question remains the same, can they afford to take the chance of losing people for nothing, or getting limited by NMC.... because that scenario would be 1000x worse than the one proposed.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 mai 2023 à 13 h 11
Sujet: Breaking up the core 4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LegendaryMyGuy</b></div><div>The prospect of Matthews leaving if Marner is traded is definitely one to consider and raises a lot of concern. To your point of shopping Matthews, you would be hard pressed to find a destination in which A. Matthews signs long term and B. That destination having a package to equal the value of a guy like Matthews. Nylander will be undervalued and won't be a player you could trade comfortably and walk away thinking you won that deal. Marner is the only viable option in terms of value he could possibly bring in. The situation here in Toronto is definitely not pretty</div></div>

To the point A - I think Leafs management should talk to Matthews and see what destinations he's interested in, allow the teams and his agent to talk and come to a contract before the trade occurs.

To the point B - Not having to overpay in free agency as a bidding war can be an advantage, and deal with existing contracts (like Calgary having to pay to ship Monahan) could be a positive for both teams, I still think LA would be a good fit, with guys like Durzi-Byfield-Clarke-Turcotte etc... and some picks. Doesn't really affect LA's core, but they get better by trading away futures.

Definitely could be interesting.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 mai 2023 à 17 h 19
Sujet: offre hostile
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>Are we? Stacked on the wings? We need top end talent for the future - Cole Caufield, Slaf, then it goes to Farrel and RHP. Can't say we are stacked.</div></div>

As much as Habs fans love to isht on Gallagher, Anderson, Dach is looking more and more like he might be a long term winger, and there's players who stood out at the last camp, Heineman, Mesar, Roy, and whether Tuch or Kapanen pan out.

Montreal is definitely not lacking for wingers, current or prospect depth.

And then there's 2x 1st round picks this year, so, who knows what they get.

Laf hasn't earned more than the third line minutes he gets, sticking him in Montreal is basically re-doing the Drouin option, of trying to get a talented young french speaker and if/when he fizzles out, they can repeat it again... not worth it.