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Forum: Fauteuil - DG3 juill. 2022 à 2 h 46
Sujet: 3th Ovrl pick Cooley
It's an easy no from Arizona. With 3rd OA we are getting one of the top forwards, most likely Cooley. Arizona are starving for elite talent, especially up front and at center. He might just be the best player in the draft. Also, we have 7 picks in the top 45, so there is no need for more picks.

I know what the pick value charts are saying, but those are general. This year has a clear top 3, hence it's going to cost to move up. 6+12 for 3. Arizona aren't adding anything. Still, it's an easy no from me, as explained above.

There are however rumors of Arizona wanting to move up. Friedmann mentioned it. The counteroffer I present is CAR 1st (#27, 3.2 GSVA) + COL 1st (#32, 2.7 GSVA) for CBJ 1st (#12, 5.5 GSVA). Even then Arizona is offering more value, so Columbus would have to add 0.4 GSVA, which is your 4th round pick (#109, 0.4 GSVA). 12 + 109 for 27 + 32.

All in all, I see where you're coming from. Both Portzline and Scheig wrote about this. If Columbus want to move up and get Cooley, it's to 2nd OA. Arizona aren't interested. Cooley is going to look good in a Coyotes sweater.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2022 à 1 h 52
Sujet: Jarmo puts his foot on the gas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pocke</b></div><div>6+12 is worth more than the 3 alone based on the work done for Average Draft Pick Position GSVA. In terms of that sheet, 6+12 = 3 + 29. I can see Arizona wanting the more premium asset for Cooley, but Gauthier/Savoie/Jiricek + the 12 could help an org still a bit starved for assets. Just as well, the top tier starts to fall off at 12 so you're getting 2 picks within that. AZ having a lot of picks certainly makes the deal harder, but I think there's an angle that still works considering the upgrade.

If you'd like 12 + Ceulemans+ I think that's a deal that CBJ can make very easily. We don't have much as far as roster players for trade. Jenner isn't really tradeable and has an NTC. Nyquist and Voracek could be dealt for sure. Otherwise you're looking at Bean/Peeke or a roster playing prospect like Texier or Bemstrom. If CBJ get Chychrun and get to keep Boqvist I think they'd be happy to part with a further off prospect. Bjorkstrand and Roslovic have just signed deals and likely are too good to also be parting with the 12.</div></div>

Appreciate the answer! Good reasoning. I agree that the price is what you said for the pick swap, but every year is different and every team have own charts for respective year. Aaron Portzline had a good article in the Athletic about this a few days ago from Columbus' view. Since there is a clear top 3, I'd argue this year doesn't need an additional pick added. I do also find the appeal with those two picks.

I find it interesting you would give up Cuelemans that easily. Other CBJ fans I've talked to are more hesitant and would rather give up Boqvist. 12th + Cuelemans + is one of, if not the most, preferred deals for Chychrun for me personally. If that last piece is Texier it's a slam dunk for me, but I think Texier holds too much value for that to be fair for Columbus. Perhaps Bean is more fair. The deal could always be balanced with picks. All in all, it's potentially 2 top 4 D in Cuelemans and Korchinski/Mintyukov. It makes a lot of sense for Arizona in my mind.