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Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 12 h 51
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>I’d give one of those second rounders (NY/EDM) + a minor kicker like a 4th or 5th round pick.</div></div>
A 2nd and a 4th makes sense
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 12 h 50
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>DeMelo is OK but just OK. Not Top 4 but a solid 3rd liner. The only thing that is wrong is the 3 mil he makes.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>memehlers</b></div><div>look I'm just gonna stop arguing about this cuz this doesn't matter, but what I will say is that we shouldn't be paying him 3M</div></div>
You can always tell here who doesn’t understand cap and player values. He is the most valuable contract we have on the back end, and after Pionk’s extension, will be the only one with surplus value.
He’s better than a $3M Dman. Period
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 12 h 49
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>memehlers</b></div><div>and Stanley and Forbort. Heinola and Samberg coming up soon</div></div>
How does one say Demelo is garbage, and then later in the same thread talk about Forbort and Stanley. Forbort shouldn’t even be playing at this point. And Stanley is nothing more than a #6.
Heinola and Samberg both coming yes, and will be better than those 2. But in the immediate timeline, like right ducking now, the Jets RHD isn’t the issue. It’s the teams LHD
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 12 h 48
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>You keep changing your argument-
Morrissey with DeMelo is like he was when he was 2 years ago with Trouba to Morrissey has been a trainwreck since Trouba left
Larsson is Top 4 to he is not a Top 4
No one want to trade anything for Hamonic to he wouldn't be playing games in Carolina.
Carolina's d core has Gardiner in it. Still wonder why Carolina wanted to make a trade.</div></div>
You have very clear problems reading comprehension
- Morrissey has been a train wreck individually since trouba left. The only time he’s had solid results is next to demelo. Idk what’s hard to understand about that
- Larsson is a fine top 4, he’s not a top 2, which you suggested he was.
- Jake Gardiner has missed most of the year with injury. And is still a much better player than Hamonic. Seriously man Hamonic is washed af.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 1 h 38
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>$19 million on the RHD. That is good management.
On the other hand trading Copp for assets and replacing Maurice has my stamp of approval.</div></div>
Very good management. You’re far too focused on the handedness of a position rather than total impact and value
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 1 h 36
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>You realize that teams wanted Hamonic this year when Vancouver was out of the playoffs like a serious contender like Carolina. You are welcome</div></div>
Idk if you’ve seen Carolina’s d core, but Hamonic wouldn’t be playing games there
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 1 h 35
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>I’ve been an advocate for Detroit to acquire Copp if the price is right. Two seconds is too rich for me.</div></div>
Curious your thought on price
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juin 2021 à 1 h 35
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Gptta protect Stanley over DeMelo, will be disappointed with the organization if they lose Stanley to Seattle.</div></div>
The Jets left handed depth far outweighed the right side. Protecting a 23 year old... 3rd pairing Dman over a top 4 RHD signed cheap for years to come would be Peter Chiarelli level of mismanagement
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 9
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>Hughes took a hugh step back so that is why he will cash in with a new contract. Makes sense to me????
DeMelo played top pairing with Chabot so that is why he was traded for a whopping 3rd rounder. Must of been a real deep draft. How many bonafide top 4 can you get at trade deadline for a 3rd? I'll answer that for you- none.
Same converastion you say Larsson is #2 then you say he is not.</div></div>
You continue to prove you’re a casual that doesn’t know the league. Thank you.
You realize no one wanted to trade anything for Hamonic and he went to Vancouver on a PTO right.
If a dumb GM never traded Taylor Hall for him, would you even know who Larsson is? Because it’s evident you’ve never really watched him play
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 7
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>This is stupid because:
1. DeMelo is your best defensemen and has seem to find his game with Morrissey
2. Copp won’t be left unprotected
3. Your overrating Adam Larsson there’s no way he get top pairing minutes
4. Their more in need of a left handed defensemen then right
5. Hamonic would be pretty useless in Winnipeg
6. Adam Larsson at best is a fringe second pairing defensemen
7. If you ask all 32 gms in the nhl who they’d rather have I’d say at least 25 or more say DeMelo
8. Your only making the team older by signing Zajac and Haula
9. The only thing missing from the Larsson and Hamonic contracts are buyout dates
10. Cheveldayoff would be canned midway through next season if he did anything of what you said</div></div>
Nothing but facts
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 40
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>Devon Toews has been a known commodity for a couple years before the trade. Lowry probably doesn’t sign that extension without protections in place though. So it comes down to Appleton & Copp. Some Jet fans have said Copp isn’t happy in Winnipeg so it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay a premium for a player having a career year that wants out from a Detroit perspective.</div></div>
Trust me, I know re: Toews. He was someone I was hoping Winnipeg would jump all over. 2 2nds in that context for copp is an overpay on my part.
Yeah the org values Lowry heavily. He’ll be protected. They should’ve waited on that contract.
Copp is a huge part of this teams forward core. He wasn’t happy being taken to arbitration and always seeing a diminished role whenever he gets bounced from the top 6 when he’s play well. He’s a strong player. I’d keep him myself and wouldve prioritized him over lowry.
At a lower price, I do think this is the type of situation Yzerman should be extracting a good player from. He’d do wonders for the youth there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 35
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>1. Insane to think DeMelo is top 4
2. Yes they did go after Oleksiak and Gavrikov but they also inquired about RHD as per Chevy
3. Larsson is top 4 and better than DeMelo
4. This year Hamonic played with Hughes- enough said
5. Not sure what you are talking about when you say that Morrissey is looking like he's back the day Dylan DeMelo was paired with him. Morrissey has not been the same player since Trouba left other than the last 4 playoff games which can be attributed to the whole team playing great and a change in attitude.
6. Rather have 2 good #2's in Pionk and Larsson than your 2 good #2-3's on the right side.
7. $3 mil is too much for a 3rd pairing especially in the flat cap.</div></div>
The only insane thing is to believe he isn’t. He’s been a legit top 4 Dman statistically 3 seasons in a row. And by the eye test, he is great at what he does. I’m guessing you’re new to the sport? That’s ok if so. I’ll understand.
2. Again, at the deadline Maurice was playing Tucker Poolman top pairing minutes. Tucker Poolman.
3. Larsson is not better than Demelo but continue on, casual.
4. Not sure id want to "enough said" that comment after a huge step back of a year from Hughes, mostly because of Hamonic. but if youre that simple "Demelo played top pairing with Chabot, and now Morrissey. enough said."
5. you're right Morrissey has been mostly a trainwreck since Trouba left. the org should really expose him tbh. guess who he only positive results are with in those years.... I led you there, lets see if you can finish
6. Adam Larsson is not a #2. and if he were one, he would get alot more than $4M. so pick your poison cause it can't be both.
7. Demelo is a bonafide top 4. as already mentioned. But it's clear you don't understand how value or the cap works. paying $1M more for a player 3x as good as the $2M option you chose, is great asset management. Hell you spent $2M on a 4C that will play 6-7 minutes here. at best. talk about "too much" for a role
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 19
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>You’re asking for more compensation that a bonafide top pairing defensemen (Toews) got last offseason. Does Winnipeg even protect Copp over Appleton in the ED?</div></div>
To be fair, Toews was pretty underrated. As mentioned above, I was just throwing this out there as a concept.
Copp likely gets protected over Appleton. Realistically he’s better than both Lowry and Appleton
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 15
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Realistically Maurice probably won’t get fired</div></div>
Realistically and that’s unfortunate
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 6
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>I love what he's doing. As long as we can remain patient and keep up without rushing anything like the leafs did, we are going to be so good. We really need a 1C badly. I hope we can get wright next year, power or wahlstadt this year to solidy the future</div></div>
I think can’t get over just how much he got for Mantha. I’m a huge Vrana fan myself, and would take him heads up. Never mind the icing on the cake that came with it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 2
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Appreciate the feedback, wings are building through the draft so we are going to keep 2 2nds.
What I was saying Is we would have to protect him say over erne or someone else we already have, so wings aren't going to do this trade, per all of yzermans interviews and trades he's made</div></div>
It makes sense! Admittedly haven’t been following much wings. Big Yzerman fan as a GM, you guys are going to be in good shape. Genuinely looked at this as a Detroit Win for you guys tbh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 57
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>They have enough of that already and with expansion you aren't getting 2 2nds for this guy. Wings are going to continue the rebuild the via the draft as they have been. Good thoughts though, just doenst line up with wings timeline right now</div></div>
No ones going to pay Detroit to save a player from Weattle only for that team to lose an additional player to Seattle. That doesn’t even make sense. This would be Yzerman taking advantage of the draft to acquire a very strong middle 6 F that can help carry the play for the youth movement.
Do I see it as likely? Nope. Just an idea
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 56
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jgimp69</b></div><div>You saw JoMo in the Edmonton series right? He played excellent and was looking his normal self from a few years ago. Yes, he may have had a few questionable seasons but what do you expect when the team lost Buff and Trouble. Give him a competent partner and some time and he will be back to dominating</div></div>
Few things on this:
1. You’re absolutely correct on Josh Morrissey looking like himself in the Edmonton series. But 4 games doesn’t change 2 years.
2. The fact he needs a partner that’s better than him, tells you he isn’t worth the top pairing money he’s paid. Which makes it unlikely Seattle takes him for 6 years at that price tag.
3. Morrissey coming around is directly correlated with him being paired with Demelo, who most are dumping aside. Time to put some respect on amelo@2 name around here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 53
Sujet:
Expansion Hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Wings pass, makes no sense for this team to make this trade.</div></div>
Never hurts adding legitimate middle 6 NHL talent to help bring the kids in.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 51
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>Larsson is more of a complete defenseman than DeMelo. Hamonic is signed as 3rd pairing and would be a million cheaper not to mention a better defenseman. If DeMelo was the Top 4 you are claiming for then why did most of the Jets fan base wanted a 1rhd at trade deadline and were disappointed when Chevy didn't get one? Not to mention that Chevy himself admitting to looking for a 1rhd?</div></div>
There’s so much wrong here. Let’s dive in!
1. People were clamouring for a #1 RHD because Paul Maurice was on drugs and was playing Tucker Poolman on the top pair which is insane.
2. The two names that the Jets went after and didn’t land were Oleksiak and Gavrikov, both of which are LHD. Which makes sense! Short term they are actively playing Forbort and Stanley on the left side which isn’t good enough.
3. You talk about wanting a #1 RHD then sign a 2nd pairing guy in Larson. And bottom pairing guy in Hamonic
4. Have you watched Travis Hamonic play hockey in the last 3 years? He isn’t good and hasn’t been for sometime. I bet you’re a casual and recognize the name, but in no world is he better than Dylan demelo
5. Josh morrissey went from an absolute train wreck, to looking like he’s back the day Dylan Demelo was paired with him. I’m not sure math is your strong suit, but you can probably put 2 + 2 together here.
6. The Jets have two good #2-3’s on the Right side. It’s never been the issue. The left side and Paul Maurice’s usage of his defenders has been.
7. Dylan Demelo at $3M for the next 3 years is the most valuable defenceman in terms of value the team has. Absolutely insane moving him for nothing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 18 h 55
Sujet:
Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD
Buddy really titled this “Expose Demelo, sign a Better RHD” then spent $6M signing 2 RHD worse than Demelo
This fan base man.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 16 h 19
Sujet:
Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Sorry, I didn't realize I was discussing this with someone who hasn't watched any games this year. Carry on.</div></div>
I've watched every game. Kyle Connor isn't the player this fanbase wants to believe and sell him as
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 14 h 29
Sujet:
Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Lol. Okay. You like guys that produce in easy games in the regular season. I prefer guys that produce in tough games and in the playoffs.</div></div>
So... how do you prefer Kyle Connor? Did he even play in the first round this year?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 13 h 33
Sujet:
Jones
I'm still in awe an hour later how bad this is.
Paying a premium in assets to then OVER PAY a premium to sign Seth Jones is the epitemy of horrible management
PAYING SEA to take a top 2 D from winnipeg, whose signed affordably moving forward for some reason
Then the icing on the terrible cake here is.. Travis Hamonic for $2M?!
if you want a #1 RHD, Dougie Hamilton is a UFA, AND much much better than Seth Jones. This is seriously Lunacy
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 13 h 27
Sujet:
Seth Jones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carterman13</b></div><div>Seth Jones is overrated and overpaid. I’ll keep Heinola</div></div>
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