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Expose DeMelo and sign a better RHD

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I think for the most part most Jets fans wanted a #1 RHD at trade deadline which didn't happen. If WPG could convince Seattle to take DeMelo then that would free up $3 mil extra to sign someone like Larsson or Savard.
Resign Stastny for one more year to allow Perfetti to work his way into the team.
Trade Copp if he wants to much or wants out and sign an UFA to take his place. Haula and Zajac should fit well with the Jets
Sign Hamonic because he should be in a Jets uniform.
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1 juin 2021 à 16 h 35
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DeMelo is just as good as Savard. He had his ups and downs but he’s not bad. But he isn’t a true first pair guy. He’s a good second pair
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1 juin 2021 à 16 h 47
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Wpg isn’t getting rid of copp
1 juin 2021 à 17 h 12
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you guys want petry?
1 juin 2021 à 18 h 14
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Wpg isn’t getting rid of copp


Don't get me wrong but just got a feeling he wants out and WPG probably will not fork over what he wants. If one of these is true then we get draft picks or good prospects for him and like I said sign a guy like Haula.
1 juin 2021 à 18 h 55
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Buddy really titled this “Expose Demelo, sign a Better RHD” then spent $6M signing 2 RHD worse than Demelo

This fan base man.
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 18
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DeMelo is just as good as Savard. He had his ups and downs but he’s not bad. But he isn’t a true first pair guy. He’s a good second pair


DeMelo does not have any offense which is OK if you are a defensive stud but DeMelo is not this either. Top 4 he is not. If DeMelo made $1.5 mil a year then he would be great for the 3rd line.
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1 juin 2021 à 19 h 29
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Buddy really titled this “Expose Demelo, sign a Better RHD” then spent $6M signing 2 RHD worse than Demelo

This fan base man.


Larsson is more of a complete defenseman than DeMelo. Hamonic is signed as 3rd pairing and would be a million cheaper not to mention a better defenseman. If DeMelo was the Top 4 you are claiming for then why did most of the Jets fan base wanted a 1rhd at trade deadline and were disappointed when Chevy didn't get one? Not to mention that Chevy himself admitting to looking for a 1rhd?
1 juin 2021 à 19 h 51
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Larsson is more of a complete defenseman than DeMelo. Hamonic is signed as 3rd pairing and would be a million cheaper not to mention a better defenseman. If DeMelo was the Top 4 you are claiming for then why did most of the Jets fan base wanted a 1rhd at trade deadline and were disappointed when Chevy didn't get one? Not to mention that Chevy himself admitting to looking for a 1rhd?


There’s so much wrong here. Let’s dive in!

1. People were clamouring for a #1 RHD because Paul Maurice was on drugs and was playing Tucker Poolman on the top pair which is insane.

2. The two names that the Jets went after and didn’t land were Oleksiak and Gavrikov, both of which are LHD. Which makes sense! Short term they are actively playing Forbort and Stanley on the left side which isn’t good enough.

3. You talk about wanting a #1 RHD then sign a 2nd pairing guy in Larson. And bottom pairing guy in Hamonic

4. Have you watched Travis Hamonic play hockey in the last 3 years? He isn’t good and hasn’t been for sometime. I bet you’re a casual and recognize the name, but in no world is he better than Dylan demelo

5. Josh morrissey went from an absolute train wreck, to looking like he’s back the day Dylan Demelo was paired with him. I’m not sure math is your strong suit, but you can probably put 2 + 2 together here.

6. The Jets have two good #2-3’s on the Right side. It’s never been the issue. The left side and Paul Maurice’s usage of his defenders has been.

7. Dylan Demelo at $3M for the next 3 years is the most valuable defenceman in terms of value the team has. Absolutely insane moving him for nothing.
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 21
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
There’s so much wrong here. Let’s dive in!

1. People were clamouring for a #1 RHD because Paul Maurice was on drugs and was playing Tucker Poolman on the top pair which is insane.

2. The two names that the Jets went after and didn’t land were Oleksiak and Gavrikov, both of which are LHD. Which makes sense! Short term they are actively playing Forbort and Stanley on the left side which isn’t good enough.

3. You talk about wanting a #1 RHD then sign a 2nd pairing guy in Larson. And bottom pairing guy in Hamonic

4. Have you watched Travis Hamonic play hockey in the last 3 years? He isn’t good and hasn’t been for sometime. I bet you’re a casual and recognize the name, but in no world is he better than Dylan demelo

5. Josh morrissey went from an absolute train wreck, to looking like he’s back the day Dylan Demelo was paired with him. I’m not sure math is your strong suit, but you can probably put 2 + 2 together here.

6. The Jets have two good #2-3’s on the Right side. It’s never been the issue. The left side and Paul Maurice’s usage of his defenders has been.

7. Dylan Demelo at $3M for the next 3 years is the most valuable defenceman in terms of value the team has. Absolutely insane moving him for nothing.


1. Insane to think DeMelo is top 4

2. Yes they did go after Oleksiak and Gavrikov but they also inquired about RHD as per Chevy

3. Larsson is top 4 and better than DeMelo

4. This year Hamonic played with Hughes- enough said

5. Not sure what you are talking about when you say that Morrissey is looking like he's back the day Dylan DeMelo was paired with him. Morrissey has not been the same player since Trouba left other than the last 4 playoff games which can be attributed to the whole team playing great and a change in attitude.

6. Rather have 2 good #2's in Pionk and Larsson than your 2 good #2-3's on the right side.

7. $3 mil is too much for a 3rd pairing especially in the flat cap.
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: Wpgman
1. Insane to think DeMelo is top 4

2. Yes they did go after Oleksiak and Gavrikov but they also inquired about RHD as per Chevy

3. Larsson is top 4 and better than DeMelo

4. This year Hamonic played with Hughes- enough said

5. Not sure what you are talking about when you say that Morrissey is looking like he's back the day Dylan DeMelo was paired with him. Morrissey has not been the same player since Trouba left other than the last 4 playoff games which can be attributed to the whole team playing great and a change in attitude.

6. Rather have 2 good #2's in Pionk and Larsson than your 2 good #2-3's on the right side.

7. $3 mil is too much for a 3rd pairing especially in the flat cap.


The only insane thing is to believe he isn’t. He’s been a legit top 4 Dman statistically 3 seasons in a row. And by the eye test, he is great at what he does. I’m guessing you’re new to the sport? That’s ok if so. I’ll understand.

2. Again, at the deadline Maurice was playing Tucker Poolman top pairing minutes. Tucker Poolman.

3. Larsson is not better than Demelo but continue on, casual.

4. Not sure id want to "enough said" that comment after a huge step back of a year from Hughes, mostly because of Hamonic. but if youre that simple "Demelo played top pairing with Chabot, and now Morrissey. enough said."

5. you're right Morrissey has been mostly a trainwreck since Trouba left. the org should really expose him tbh. guess who he only positive results are with in those years.... I led you there, lets see if you can finish

6. Adam Larsson is not a #2. and if he were one, he would get alot more than $4M. so pick your poison cause it can't be both.

7. Demelo is a bonafide top 4. as already mentioned. But it's clear you don't understand how value or the cap works. paying $1M more for a player 3x as good as the $2M option you chose, is great asset management. Hell you spent $2M on a 4C that will play 6-7 minutes here. at best. talk about "too much" for a role
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 51
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Sign hamonic because he should be in a Jets jersey why? He has not been good for some time now
1 juin 2021 à 20 h 59
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This is stupid because:
1. DeMelo is your best defensemen and has seem to find his game with Morrissey
2. Copp won’t be left unprotected
3. Your overrating Adam Larsson there’s no way he get top pairing minutes
4. Their more in need of a left handed defensemen then right
5. Hamonic would be pretty useless in Winnipeg
6. Adam Larsson at best is a fringe second pairing defensemen
7. If you ask all 32 gms in the nhl who they’d rather have I’d say at least 25 or more say DeMelo
8. Your only making the team older by signing Zajac and Haula
9. The only thing missing from the Larsson and Hamonic contracts are buyout dates
10. Cheveldayoff would be canned midway through next season if he did anything of what you said
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1 juin 2021 à 21 h 0
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The only insane thing is to believe he isn’t. He’s been a legit top 4 Dman statistically 3 seasons in a row. And by the eye test, he is great at what he does. I’m guessing you’re new to the sport? That’s ok if so. I’ll understand.

2. Again, at the deadline Maurice was playing Tucker Poolman top pairing minutes. Tucker Poolman.

3. Larsson is not better than Demelo but continue on, casual.

4. Not sure id want to "enough said" that comment after a huge step back of a year from Hughes, mostly because of Hamonic. but if youre that simple "Demelo played top pairing with Chabot, and now Morrissey. enough said."

5. you're right Morrissey has been mostly a trainwreck since Trouba left. the org should really expose him tbh. guess who he only positive results are with in those years.... I led you there, lets see if you can finish

6. Adam Larsson is not a #2. and if he were one, he would get alot more than $4M. so pick your poison cause it can't be both.

7. Demelo is a bonafide top 4. as already mentioned. But it's clear you don't understand how value or the cap works. paying $1M more for a player 3x as good as the $2M option you chose, is great asset management. Hell you spent $2M on a 4C that will play 6-7 minutes here. at best. talk about "too much" for a role


Hughes took a hugh step back so that is why he will cash in with a new contract. Makes sense to me????

DeMelo played top pairing with Chabot so that is why he was traded for a whopping 3rd rounder. Must of been a real deep draft. How many bonafide top 4 can you get at trade deadline for a 3rd? I'll answer that for you- none.

Same converastion you say Larsson is #2 then you say he is not.
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: IconicHawk
This is stupid because:
1. DeMelo is your best defensemen and has seem to find his game with Morrissey
2. Copp won’t be left unprotected
3. Your overrating Adam Larsson there’s no way he get top pairing minutes
4. Their more in need of a left handed defensemen then right
5. Hamonic would be pretty useless in Winnipeg
6. Adam Larsson at best is a fringe second pairing defensemen
7. If you ask all 32 gms in the nhl who they’d rather have I’d say at least 25 or more say DeMelo
8. Your only making the team older by signing Zajac and Haula
9. The only thing missing from the Larsson and Hamonic contracts are buyout dates
10. Cheveldayoff would be canned midway through next season if he did anything of what you said


I looked at #1 and that is where I stopped. DeMelo is our best defensemen. Are you an unemployed comedian at Just for Laughs?
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 7
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Quoting: IconicHawk
This is stupid because:
1. DeMelo is your best defensemen and has seem to find his game with Morrissey
2. Copp won’t be left unprotected
3. Your overrating Adam Larsson there’s no way he get top pairing minutes
4. Their more in need of a left handed defensemen then right
5. Hamonic would be pretty useless in Winnipeg
6. Adam Larsson at best is a fringe second pairing defensemen
7. If you ask all 32 gms in the nhl who they’d rather have I’d say at least 25 or more say DeMelo
8. Your only making the team older by signing Zajac and Haula
9. The only thing missing from the Larsson and Hamonic contracts are buyout dates
10. Cheveldayoff would be canned midway through next season if he did anything of what you said


Nothing but facts
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 9
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Hughes took a hugh step back so that is why he will cash in with a new contract. Makes sense to me????

DeMelo played top pairing with Chabot so that is why he was traded for a whopping 3rd rounder. Must of been a real deep draft. How many bonafide top 4 can you get at trade deadline for a 3rd? I'll answer that for you- none.

Same converastion you say Larsson is #2 then you say he is not.


You continue to prove you’re a casual that doesn’t know the league. Thank you.

You realize no one wanted to trade anything for Hamonic and he went to Vancouver on a PTO right.

If a dumb GM never traded Taylor Hall for him, would you even know who Larsson is? Because it’s evident you’ve never really watched him play
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 14
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I looked at #1 and that is where I stopped. DeMelo is our best defensemen. Are you an unemployed comedian at Just for Laughs?


Well are defensemen meant to be offensive phenoms? No, no they aren’t
1 juin 2021 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
You continue to prove you’re a casual that doesn’t know the league. Thank you.

You realize no one wanted to trade anything for Hamonic and he went to Vancouver on a PTO right.

If a dumb GM never traded Taylor Hall for him, would you even know who Larsson is? Because it’s evident you’ve never really watched him play


You realize that teams wanted Hamonic this year when Vancouver was out of the playoffs like a serious contender like Carolina. You are welcome
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Well are defensemen meant to be offensive phenoms? No, no they aren’t


He is not our best defensemen as you say he is.
2 juin 2021 à 1 h 36
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You realize that teams wanted Hamonic this year when Vancouver was out of the playoffs like a serious contender like Carolina. You are welcome


Idk if you’ve seen Carolina’s d core, but Hamonic wouldn’t be playing games there
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
Idk if you’ve seen Carolina’s d core, but Hamonic wouldn’t be playing games there


You keep changing your argument-

Morrissey with DeMelo is like he was when he was 2 years ago with Trouba to Morrissey has been a trainwreck since Trouba left
Larsson is Top 4 to he is not a Top 4
No one want to trade anything for Hamonic to he wouldn't be playing games in Carolina.

Carolina's d core has Gardiner in it. Still wonder why Carolina wanted to make a trade.
2 juin 2021 à 9 h 13
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
Buddy really titled this “Expose Demelo, sign a Better RHD” then spent $6M signing 2 RHD worse than Demelo

This fan base man.


There is no way that DeMelo is better than Larsson. He is probably better than Hamonic though
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Quoting: IconicHawk
This is stupid because:
1. DeMelo is your best defensemen and has seem to find his game with Morrissey
2. Copp won’t be left unprotected
3. Your overrating Adam Larsson there’s no way he get top pairing minutes
4. Their more in need of a left handed defensemen then right
5. Hamonic would be pretty useless in Winnipeg
6. Adam Larsson at best is a fringe second pairing defensemen
7. If you ask all 32 gms in the nhl who they’d rather have I’d say at least 25 or more say DeMelo
8. Your only making the team older by signing Zajac and Haula
9. The only thing missing from the Larsson and Hamonic contracts are buyout dates
10. Cheveldayoff would be canned midway through next season if he did anything of what you said


1. DeMelo is garbage
2. Copp is leaving (sadly)
3. just switch the pairings
4. nah we need a rhd
5. yeah sure
6. also yeah sure
7. yeah they would probably say Demelo but that doesn't mean he's better
8. who cares if were older? were making a cup run
9. idk how to answer that
10. no he wouldn't, cuz most of these are fine
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2 juin 2021 à 9 h 28
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Quoting: memehlers
1. DeMelo is garbage
2. Copp is leaving (sadly)
3. just switch the pairings
4. nah we need a rhd
5. yeah sure
6. also yeah sure
7. yeah they would probably say Demelo but that doesn't mean he's better
8. who cares if were older? were making a cup run
9. idk how to answer that
10. no he wouldn't, cuz most of these are fine


No we don’t we need a leftie because all we have for that side is Josh Morrissey and that’s it
2 juin 2021 à 9 h 30
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Plus Copp has never publicly said we wants to leave Winnipeg
 
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