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Forum: Other Leagues15 avr. à 17 h 33
Sujet: AHL-ECHL Teams/NHL Affiliations
Given the news about Arizona Coyotes NHL team relocating to Salt Lake City; there are questions that arise regarding the "trickle-down" effect on AHL and ECHL teams. Some of the rumors state that the former owner of the Coyotes, Alex Meruelo, will continue to own the AHL team located in Tucson but move them to Phoenix as tenants of Mullett Arena. No clarity on if that means automatic affiliation with the SLC NHL team yet. Will it be the Roadrunners or the Coyotes? Something else... The Kachinas?

https://gophnx.com/what-is-the-roadrunners-future-in-arizona/

<strong>Teams affected:</strong>
Arizona Coyotes (NHL) -&gt; Tucson Roadrunners (AHL) -&gt; no ECHL affiliate but rumors were that a team would be placed in Reno, NV when the arena is built there (stop me if you've heard that before).
Colorado Avalanche (NHL) -&gt; Colorado Eagles (AHL) -&gt; Utah Grizzlies (ECHL)

Would the teams do right by Tucson and place an ECHL team there during the 5 year window for Arizona to get a new NHL team?

Also, there is an existing ECHL team in Salt Lake City suburb of West Valley City; the Grizzlies which are an Avalanche affiliate (relocated to SLC area from Denver after the Avs came to town).

Avs probably do not want their ECHL team in the backyard of a division rival. There is an unlikely long-term situation that sees both an ECHL and NHL team sharing the market in SLC.

I am really optimistic that the Avs will get an ECHL team in Colorado Springs, CO (World Arena has no anchor tenant) or even Albuquerque, NM.
Forum: NHL14 avr. à 10 h 46
Sujet: Name the three primary objectives for your team's off-season... go!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Canucks

1) Figure out what you’re doing with Hronek/the whole blueline. Are you willing to sign Hronek for what he’s asking for? If not what are you able to get in a trade for him to help the team right now, whether it’s in the initial trade or flipping the assets acquired for him. The blueline as a whole is a huge priority as we only have 2 definite top 6 defenders signed next year (Hughes and Soucy). Juulsen has been solid and is signed for cheap as well, he’ll likely be a bottom pair guy or the #7 dman again. Assuming you sign Hronek you still need one top 4 guy, one bottom pair guy, and one more #6/7 type guy

2) Get another true top 6 winger, whether it’s by trade or free agency. Boeser is obviously locked into a top 6 spot on the wing next year, and Hoglander should get one of those spots with the season he’s had, but after that it’s a bit dicey. Garland is more than capable of playing in the top 6 but he’s also shown he can carry an elite 3rd line this year so I don’t hate keeping him in that role. Mikheyev hopefully bounces back after a tough first year post surgery but it’s no guarantee. Lekkerimaki probably needs another year of development before playing in the NHL

3) Figure out what UFAs you’re keeping. Lindholm, Joshua, Blueger, Lafferty, Zadorov, Myers, Cole, and Desmith are all UFAs, and not all of them will be back. Joshua should be the priority. Lindholm is likely gone. At least one of Blueger/Lafferty probably are as well. I could see any of the dmen staying or leaving. Wouldn’t be surprised if Desmith leaves and either Silovs or a cheaper veteran is the backup next season</div></div>

Wonder if they can trade Lindholm's rights to Boston for blueline help?
Forum: NHL14 avr. à 1 h 36
Sujet: Name the three primary objectives for your team's off-season... go!
Avs:

1) Solidify "playoff" goaltending. I am 99% certain that the Avs were the team tying to get Ullmark at the deadline. I suspect that included Georgiev going back the other way. Not sure that will happen in the off-season however. Annunen has shown flashes but we cannot rely on him as anything more than a backup (not a tandem or a 1B role); but if he ends up being more then its just gravy. Problem is that he will likely not be waiver exempt next year.

2) Landeskog or Drouin? If Landeskog is healthy then there is no way we can afford to keep Drouin. It really comes down to that, all the other forward slots fall into place after that. If Landeskog is out, Mittelstadt takes a fair RFA deal, and Drouin takes a team friendly deal then we might be able to extend Walker also...

3) Settle 3rd blueline pair. It's very likely we can't retain Sean Walker and that Jack Johnson retires and Caleb Jones doesn't re-up. Sam Malinksi is the odds on favorite on the right side but the left is anyone's spot with Sean Behrens also coming pro soon hopefully.
Forum: NHL12 avr. à 9 h 41
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>It's very interesting to look at the WC race in the east

NYI 89 points, 3 games left ( NYR, Devils, Pens so 3 hard games)
Pittsburgh 86 points, 3 games left ( Boston, Nashville, NYI, again 3 hard games)
Washington 85 points, 3 games left ( Tampa, Boston, Philly, 3 hard games)
Detroit 85 points, 3 games left ( Toronto, Montreal, Montreal so 1 hard game, 2 easy games)
Philly 85 points, 2 games left ( NJ, Washington, 2 hard games)

I think NYI and Detroit are the 2 teams, Detroit has 2 easy games vs Montreal and NYI already has an inside track

Btw all 5 of those teams play on the 13th so that's going to be some probably good hockey as they all try to win their games and hope the others lose</div></div>

I don't see Montreal as an "easy game"; they've been playing really good hockey. Many of the contenders start resting their stars this time of the year too so the gap narrows in the final week.
Forum: NHL11 avr. à 0 h 29
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CameronSquires</b></div><div>Some names I thought of for Utah

Salt Lake City Lions
Salt Lake Coyotes
Utah Coyotes
Utah Warriors
Salt Lake City Rams
Salt Lake City Cougars
Salt Lake City Bison
Salt Lake Cyclones
Utah Tornadoes
Utah Cyclones
Utah Blizzard
Salt Lake City Cheetahs
Utah Dragons
Salt Lake Lizards

Are any of these not total trash? Lol</div></div>

I'm sure they will use "Utah" as the placename for the team to incorporate a larger demographic into their fanbase.

I wonder if it will be the Utah Eagles. There is a connection to Smith's early hockey fandom and of course Eagles are local birds of prey in the area and they can keep some of the southwestern color schemes from Coyotes into the design (not that that is a primary concern).
Forum: Other Leagues4 avr. à 13 h 56
Sujet: NCAA Hockey Realignment & Expansion
Way too early to know how it will affect college hockey, but <a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-works-with-college-presidents-to-form-super-league" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this</a> is an explosive development for NCAA sports:

I can't help but see the changes and litigation going on in NCAA, CHL, U-Sports, USHL and wonder if there is a path forward for amatuer hockey to retain some of the structure of Junior Hockey and College Hockey access without major disruptions throughout the evolution of NIL and Unionization of players.

Hockey, for now, seems like the one collegiate sport that can survive outside of the "Super League" structure since it already has for so long but you never want to discount how this can impact the game. For example if budget cuts are rampant for non-Super League teams how does the athletic department handle it.

The Big Ten (+Notre Dame) schools will be fine and in fact this could even grant them more advantages in recruiting if the Super League status gives them more sponsorship opportunities and exposure to maximize NIL for hockey players. But the non-Super League schools, for example Bowling Green, Miami (OH), UConn, and Western Michigan could be impacted in their athletic department and it trickle down to hockey.
Forum: NHL4 avr. à 13 h 0
Sujet: Who's your MVP for the 2023-24 season: McDavid or Any Other Player...???
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Oh... It's because Nylander's doing well... I get that

And don't forget, the Leafs were in WC1 at one point...

I don't think there's a bad option out of: Matthews, MacKinnon, Kuch and McDavid</div></div>

I'm just pointing out the main items that are brought up to "split hairs" between these guys. It's probably the closest and with the most players of being worthy that I can recall in several decades.

The drumbeat on Kucherov is that he is 45 points farther ahead than anyone on his team. The opposite of that is McDavid-Draisatl; MacKinnon-Rantanen; Matthews-Nylander. What "helps" one guys case "hurts" the others. McDavid dragging his team from the precipice of disaster is impressive; Kucherov holding the Lightning in the mix is also; Matthews might be on that scale but not to the level of those guys. But then we can't also ignore that MacKinnon's elite consistency all year never allowed his team to slide that far down.

It is the most subjective thing at this point and none of these teams would be as good this year without these players.

I was curious about how they played against elite competition:

<strong>Vs Top 8 teams (not including their own of course):</strong>

Kucherov 15-21 36 pts in 20 games: 1.800 ppg
Panarin 11-14 25 pts in 19 games: 1.316 ppg
McDavid 3-18 21 pts in 17 games: 1.235 ppg
MacKinnon 8-12 20 pts in 17 games: 1.176 ppg
Matthews 12-10 22 pts in 21 games: 1.048 ppg
Pastrnak 7-8 15 pts in 17 games: 0.882 ppg

<strong>Vs Top 16 teams (not including their own of course):
</strong>
Kucherov 29-44 73 pts in 39 games: 1.872 ppg
McDavid 12-53 65 pts in 36 games: 1.806 ppg
MacKinnon 20-37 57 pts in 36 games: 1.583 ppg
Pastrnak 18-32 50 pts in 40 games: 1.250 ppg
Matthews 26-22 48 pts in 40 games: 1.200 ppg
Panarin 20-27 47 pts in 40 games: 1.175 ppg

<strong>vs the "bottom 15" teams:
</strong>
MacKinnon 27-43 70 pts in 39 games: 1.795 ppg
Panarin 25-38 63 pts in 36 games: 1.750 ppg
McDavid 17-44 61 pts in 36 games: 1.694 ppg
Kucherov 13-44 57 pts in 35 games: 1.629 ppg
Matthews 37-14 51 pts in 34 games: 1.500 ppg
Pastrnak 28-26 54 pts in 36 games: 1.500 ppg

I was really surprised at these results. This shows that Kucherov has been uniquely dominant against top level teams; McDavid is consistent across all levels but slight dip against the high end; and while all of them are still elite: Matthews, MacKinnon, Panarin and Pastrnak feast on the weak (as expected). Matthews goal scoring rate vs "good teams" vs "bad teams" is pretty stark (about half the rate).