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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 5 heures
Sujet:
Following some rumours ideal hawks draft
Habs definitely accept but Chicago is better off drafting Levshunov 2nd
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
il y a 7 heures
Sujet:
Idk its a concept
Does Gorton still owes money to New York?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 7 heures
Sujet:
Will Smith for 5
Hot take : this draft is better than last year’s. Way deeper. But habs still add quite a bit in this deal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 7 heures
Sujet:
whatever
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildfan24</b></div><div>I figured but thought I'd see. is there any I Teresa with Montreal going after rossi</div></div>
I doubt Montreal would want Rossi because he is too small but we never know, they might prioritize talent over size. But certainly not for Dach
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 7 heures
Sujet:
whatever
Dach isn’t available
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 9 heures
Sujet:
Holtz to Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>The Dvorak piece was the biggest question mark for me. I don’t know if they have incentive to remove him from roster or not, but it fit, so I included him.</div></div>
We would rather keep him (unless Kapanen is ready, but I doubt that) but if someone is interested, they can have him for cheap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 9 heures
Sujet:
End the drought
Habs easily pass
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Fauteuil - DG
il y a 10 heures
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>This is the same low quality package you personally offered for PLD last year and did PLD end up being traded for a worthless package? No he didn't. He was traded for a quality piece and players that filled needs.
This offer lacks both, no quality and no players that fill needs for Winnipeg.</div></div>
Ah yes, the PLD package I didn’t offer. I was against trading for PLD because he is a bad player. Turns out I was right lol.
I used trade comparison to make this package, use a trade comparison to prove me wrong
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Fauteuil - DG
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>All your examples are for worse players (Bertuzzi) for rentals or for players in distressed situations, requested trades, won't extend, had a bad long term extension), none of which apply to Ehlers. With Ehlers you're trading for a player the Jets don't have to trade and competing against teams where he will extend.
While you have a high opinion of the cast offs you're offering, you have to realize that players that can't consistently crack the roster of an awful team with no depth aren't desirable pieces for good teams. Especially when none fill a need for the team you're trying to dump them on.
So, that brings us back to the original point. You yourself know it's awful value because you offered 5 pieces. If you truly believed any of the pieces were as valuable as you're saying, you wouldn't be offering 5 pieces.
Easy no for Winnipeg.</div></div>
Ah yes, as if Ehlers wasn’t a rental. Most players up here are in the exact same situation than Ehlers lol. Those comparisons are pretty good. I dare you to find a better one…
Struble litterally cracked the roster on his first pro season lol. Do some research
I purposely overpaid on this trade to avoid having arguments like this one. Guess nothing satisfy you lol…
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Armchair-GM
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
Three Team Trade with Ottawa and Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Guhle needs to be an LHD</div></div>
Guhle needs to have a consistent partner. I think Barron should be him
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Fauteuil - DG
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>You realize he was just traded for a 2nd and 3rd round pick right? That's an indication of what the league thinks his value is, it's not gonna be more than $7M.</div></div>
FA are usually getting paid a ton. Klinberg got 4m after being traded for a fourth
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Armchair-GM
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
Three Team Trade with Ottawa and Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>Surely Mailloux joins the NHL next year, right? I think Kovy needs to go realistically</div></div>
Mailloux needs to work on his defensive play in the ahl next year, like Barron did this year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
Three Team Trade with Ottawa and Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Am not worried about his play. Am worried about his injury history. He has not yet shown he can keep his head up.</div></div>
He hasn’t been injured this year and didn’t have any major injuries. No need to worry. Guhle on the other hand…
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Armchair-GM
il y a 17 heures
Sujet:
Three Team Trade with Ottawa and Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>You mean #4 RD right.
After
1. Guhle
2. Savard
3. Kovacevic
4 Barron</div></div>
Guhle is a ld
Savard
Barron
Kovacevic
Keep hating on Barron but he was our best d since he got called up
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 17 heures
Sujet:
Three Team Trade with Ottawa and Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yeahlagang</b></div><div>I think they say yes TBH. Barron is waiver eligible next year its probably time to trade him.</div></div>
Barron will play top 4 minutes next year. Pretty easy no.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
il y a 17 heures
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Give me a comparison then of a team trading a top 6 winger, that they don't have to trade for a 1st and waiver/bottom of the lineup filler.
The Montreal players are what they are.
Kovacevic - waiver claim - worth a 3rd max, but likely no more than a 4th.
Ylonen - unimpressive 4th line 13/14 forward that provides no offense. Every team has at least 3 or 4 of those guys. 0 value.
Strudel - an LHD that Winnipeg has absolutely no need for that looks to top out as a 6/7. Again Every team has 3 or 4. 0 value.</div></div>
Sure, here are some recent comparison :
Hertl and 2 thirds for a first and David Edstrom (7 year retention on Hertl)
Guentzel for a second, Bunting and some prospects
Toffoli for a second and a third
Debrincat for a first, Kubalik and Sebrango
Toffoli for Sharangovich and a third
Bertuzzi for a first and a fourth
I offered more than all of those even if they are all better players.
Ylonen is pretty worthless but still 24 with top 9 potential. I added him because I believe that in every offseason trade there needs to be a position for position swap
Kovacevic is a big RD who can play pretty much everywhere in the lineup. He is worth at least a third
Struble is a 22 years old who made the nhl in his first pro season and looked really solid in the league. He is a #5 and could very well be a middle pairing d one day. He is worth a second
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 21 h 56
Sujet:
Jets
Fair value but we’ll have to pass. We have too many injury prone players
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Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 21 h 52
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Ah yes, classic guyguyguy, "this package of garbage is more than enough for a top 6 player because I say so. I doesn't matter that the players are useless for Winnipeg and at best project to be 7/8 D or 12/13 forwards or that you can easily get better and more suitable players elsewhere"
Just absolutely clueless on how real trades actually work.
Is this like how you said Montreal was going to get PLD for this same pile of garbage?</div></div>
No, I use trade comparisons to elaborate my packages. You just criticize everything you see that doesn’t involve Winnipeg getting Connor McDavid for Laurent Brossoit.
I’m sure that if the roles were reversed and Winnipeg had Struble and montreal had Ehlers, you would say that he is garbage and not worth even the greatnest that is YOUR Struble, who made the nhl in his first pro season and has been the best prospect Winnipeg ever had since Dale Hawerchuck. Am I right?
If Gms don’t based their player value on trades involving similar players, then how the f*ck do you think trades works lol
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Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 20 h 0
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Wtf dude.</div></div>
He has every right to do it. 70 points last year and multiple 30 goals season. There will be a bidding war
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 19 h 57
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TeddyLovesTheJets</b></div><div>Jets don’t want futures</div></div>
Jets are flipping those assets for a top 4 RD, read the description.
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Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 19 h 56
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>You offered a first and garbage. Even you know that, which is why you offered 4 pieces of garbage, to try and hide that fact with quantity.
None of the players fill a need for Winnipeg and Kovacevic and Strudel will be available on waivers next season. While Ylonen is a dime a dozen 4th liner.
Plain and simple, it will need to be a hockey trade if Ehlers is moved. It's not a video game, where you just keep adding crap until you reach the preset value. You'd need to offer a good piece and more depending on the quality of the piece.</div></div>
Ah yes, waiver exempt Struble will be on waiver, classic Windjammer, not knowing anything lol. It’s more than enough for Ehlers lol. Struble and the first is enough but I added a second, a bottom pairing RD (who is 6’5 and fill exactly Winnipeg’s need) and a project (who I admit it, is kinda a throw-in)
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Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 19 h 52
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>What if instead of trading for Ehlers so the Jets can sign Toffoli we just sign Toffoli instead?</div></div>
Because Toffoli will ask for more than 7m long term
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 19 h 51
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Only 172 pounds. Panarin has always been way more productive than Ehlers. Also he didn't cost any assets back. 4 goals in 37 playoffs games isn't "experience" I wan't on my team.</div></div>
He is tall enough to compensate. You might not want him but he would help our top 6 a lot
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 33
Sujet:
Potential price to move up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>Again that would mean moving one of Z, Mateychuk, or even Svozil. But I wouldn’t read too much into what media outlets are saying. CBJ don’t even have their GM yet. What is true now may not be when they hire a new head guy.</div></div>
Yeah fair, we’ll see at the draft
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Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 12 h 30
Sujet:
What would be best case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Nowhere choose to getting Ehlers. A late 1st and some throw away/waiver pieces do nothing for Winnipeg.</div></div>
Look at comparable trades. The most recent one is the Hertl trade. A first and a good prospect is more than enough. I offered more than that
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