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Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 févr. à 6 h 56
Sujet:
Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I agree with you.
I can't see Vancouver signing Tanev in the off-season, and they're not trading their future first-round picks.</div></div>
A lot of reports have Tanev signing in Vancouver in the off season. He loved it in Vancouver, played well alongside Hughes who liked playing with him, and Vancouver has rumoured interest given his veteran leadership and strong defensive play.
While I think they’d be reluctant to part with another 1st I think they are confident enough Tanev would sign for a slight discount and value what he would bring for a run this year that they might move a 1st but only if Calgary retains (can’t afford him under cap otherwise). Lottery protected 1st, D prospect and Friedman for Tanev 50% retained would be my ballpark.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 2 h 24
Sujet:
ALLvIN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>My perspective is I wouldn’t put any value to Mikheyev, would be fine with salary coming back. His term is a little longer and he is at least a useful player, but nonetheless he doesn’t fit anything the Blues would be trying to accomplish in trading Buchnevich.
As for Lekkerimaki, it would be closer, but it still doesn’t fit a large organizational need. He’s a good prospect but his skill set is pretty similar to Snuggerud/Dvorsky as being a good PP one timer option.
Willander checks a lot of boxes for what the Blues need in their system. Personally I don’t care too much that the pick is deferred but it is certainly not preferred as it sets a timeline back further.
Podkolzin to me is a salvage project similar to Broberg from Edmonton. Blues are in a position to do something like that. But I wouldn’t put his value much above a 3rd if it were 1-1 him for a pick.
I’m personally not moving Buchnevich unless it fits an organizational need. Which is a good defensive prospect. He works really well here and works better with Thomas than Kyrou does. The Blues also don’t need to be in a rush to move him as they could very easily ask for a package similar to what you have put together next trade deadline. Our front office is not going to tank, right or wrong in one’s opinion. But they don’t want to become Buffalo and want to create a good culture for the youth wave that’s about to come up on forward and with Lindstein on the back end.</div></div>
Mikheyev is a proven two way winger who has shown he has the speed and tenacity to play in the top 6 and be effective on the PK. He is not a salary dump. Podkolzin is on track to be a two way middle six winger. He’s not a reclamation. In any case, Canucks aren’t dealing either as they need the depth for a playoff run and the price would be too high for Buchnevich (who I doubt is made available) as Canucks aren’t willing to move top tier prospects (Wallinder/Lekk) as management has already indicated.
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Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 1 h 58
Sujet:
ALLvIN
I think Canucks are done in terms of upgrading their forward group. They will look to add a RD. Feel like they would need to add a B prospect to go with Friedman and the 2nd if Flames retain given other interested teams.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 1 h 57
Sujet:
ALLvIN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>He could be "Kuzmenko's replacement," if Lindholm doesn't buy into Tocchet's system.</div></div>
Lindholm is a 200 ft player, former Selke nominee who is known for his strong play away from the puck. He doesn’t need to buy in. He plays the system already.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 1 h 55
Sujet:
Trade Hanifin already
Canucks trade seems fair and if I’m the Canucks I make that deal. They would have the D depth to rest/rotate Cole and Tanev to mitigate injury risk down the stretch.
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Armchair-GM
2 févr. à 9 h 37
Sujet:
Bogocop
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Justafan79</b></div><div>The other question is BOGO only has 9 teams he can be traded to is Vancouver 1? Unless they are I don't see him waiving to go anywhere.</div></div>
My guess is he would waive to go to a cup contender (Canucks sitting first in the league makes them a contender) but it’s a consideration for sure.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. à 6 h 42
Sujet:
How to manage the cap next year
I like this roster make up and find your comparables well reasoned. Not much to quibble with but I think Petey might want more (12.5) and Tanev might want more term. Could see Cole coming back at a cheap contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. à 6 h 28
Sujet:
Bogocop
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>plan is to healthy scratch zadorov?</div></div>
Zadrov, Soucy, Cole swap in/out based on matchups,who needs rest, who’s playing best and who is healthy. Cole has been key on PK and stabilizes their bottom pair, Soucy has played better than Zadarov when healthy. All three are in the mix though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. à 5 h 58
Sujet:
trade deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Those are just bad. CGY waits THREE drafts for a 2nd and 2 non prospects?
If VAN is really going it, its probably the 3rd and 4th in 2024 for Tanev</div></div>
Non-prospects? Juulsen isn’t a prospect but he’s a 26 year old right hand D who’s proven effective as a bottom pairing guy who can also kill penalties. Silvos is a legitimate goalie prospect who projects to play in the NHL. I don’t see this deal fitting Calgary’s needs but both have value as trade pieces.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. à 2 h 58
Sujet:
New lines Tanev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Do you realize VCR didn't announce Soucy is on LTIR?
Soucy is more on the IR list.
But getting a RHD like Tanev isn't easy to get.</div></div>
Can be moved to LTIR. Tanev won’t be easy as there are other interested teams. But Canucks shown they are willing to pay up with Lindholm trade and have rumoured interest in Tanev. He would solidify their D depth with elite shot blocking and playoff grit
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 janv. à 22 h 47
Sujet:
Official Lindholm Trade
So much for everyone on here being adamant Flames had no interest in Luzmenko and saying Canucks would have to give up Hoglander/Podkolzin + Lekkarimaki/Wallinder + 1st. Or those saying Canucks would have to pay to dump Kuzmenko. As I had been posting, Horvat trade was the fair comparable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 janv. à 8 h 38
Sujet:
24 25 Nucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SydBarrett</b></div><div>Since you didn't answer. Kuz isn't even on pace for 20 goals this year. At 5.5 he is a cap dump.
Pod isn't even a ppg player in the AHL.
Jake better 5v5 stats, more gwg, significantly better playoff points per game, and significantly less penalties. Jake> Miller.
and jake is also way better than horvat lol. That comparison isn't even remotely close. Which the stats fully support. I'm not even going to waste my time providing all the stats showing that.
If horvat is worth a 1st, a roster player, and a mid level prospect then jake is worth a 1st, a decent roster player, and a blue chip prospect.</div></div>
Will see in a few weeks I guess
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 janv. à 7 h 26
Sujet:
24 25 Nucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SydBarrett</b></div><div>If Pod is looking that good why is he in the AHL this year after spending nearly 120 games in the NHL?
If Kuz is a 38 goal scorer why does he keep getting scratched? What is his current scoring pace this year on one of the most dynamic offenses in the league?
If you think jake is taking a paycut and term cut to move to Vancouver you are kidding yourself lol.
If miller is making 8 mil. Older than Jake. and not as good as jake then why would jake make less than miller?</div></div>
Podkolzin is developing better getting top 6 minutes in AHL then bottom six minutes at NHL at this point in his development. There is still lots of runway for him. Canucks are deep enough in the middle and bottom of the roster they don’t need to rush him.
Kuzmenko is struggling in his sophomore year and not adapting to the current system Canucks play. He may never be a 38 goal scorer again but you can’t discount that he has done it at the NHL level before and have to judge him on both years not this year only. There is as much reason and evidence he’ll be a 30+ goal scorer as there is evidence he won’t. So he’s not a cap dump. Someone is buying.
Miller has put up more points per game, more hits, more blocks, won more faceoffs and had better underlying numbers than Guentzel over the past 3 years. He can play C and wing. Miller > Guentzel. Even putting that aside, why would you want to pay two players who aren’t even your two top players (Petey, Hughes) that much in their post 35 years? It’s not a fit. Unless Petey walks. Even then.
If Guentzel isn’t tradedand walks as UFA Pens get nothing. Market will dictate what the return is. My feeling is that it’s a 1st a decent roster player and a good but not elite prospect. Simmilar to the Horvat return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 janv. à 6 h 58
Sujet:
24 25 Nucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SydBarrett</b></div><div>Pens don't make that trade.
A late first, a potential cap dump, and two mid 20s prospects that still haven't made the NHL doesn't get a top 10 LW .
And there is absolutely no chance jake takes such a huge discount on his next deal lol. He'd be losing 30 million on that contract.
You're about 2 mil aav and 2 years term short.
Tanev doesn't take a pay cut like that either.</div></div>
If a 22 year old former top 10 pick who is projecting as a solid two way middle six winger, a 38 goal scorer making 5.5 this year and next and a 1st doesn’t get you a rental Canucks pass. Canucks also pass on paying a player, who is going to be on the wrong side of 30, 8 years at 9.5 as you suggest. Who wants to pay him 9.5 until he is 38? Pens can keep him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 janv. à 10 h 14
Sujet:
I think this will happen
Suter has been too valuable to move. You would be gaining in one area while losing in another. Canucks will find a way to add without subtracting from the roster - with the exception of Kuzmenko who they can’t afford to be patient with given his current production and cap hit. He’s the trade chip, along with the 1st, Raty, possibly Podkolzin and a few others playing in the AHL. Whether they get moved seperately or together depends. For Guentzel as a rental I would think Kuzmenko, Raty and a 1st gets it done. Maybe Podkolzin instead of Raty if they push.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 23 h 53
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol he was scoring at 22%. Lindholm has scored at 6.5% this year. Horvat is also a defensive liability, unlike Lindholm
Also NYI have you the 13th OA pick, you are offering the 32nd OA pick. And last year Raty was viewed as a top 100 prospect, now he is not.</div></div>
Horvat consistently one of the best at faceoffs in the league, more effective on the pp than Lindholm. True the 1st was higher but not true that Raty’s value has going down. His AHL production is up and his PNHLe has gone up. Point is, Lindholm is being overvalued if people think he’s going to net more than Horvat did.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 15 h 16
Sujet:
Guentz
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I disagree.
Dubas isn’t interested in Kuzmenko.
He would be more interested in a player like Nils Hoglander.</div></div>
More interested sure but Canucks are less interested in moving Hoglander. Saying Dubas isn’t interested in Kuzmenko is pretty presumptuous. What’s your source or analysis?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 13 h 33
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Calgary accept.
WSH-VCR trade rumour is getting too old, and it’s not going to happen.
Philly would keep Sean Walker - Danila Klimovich won’t be a good fit for the Flyers, especially under Torts.</div></div>
Why would Klimovich not be a good fit for flyers and Torts?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 13 h 32
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dickie_Dunn</b></div><div>HOW DO YOU KEEP LINDHOLM NEXT SEASON AT $8M per? You essentially would need to gut this team. And Walker is not taking $1.3M.</div></div>
Both are rentals for playoff run. Neither re-sign.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 8 h 25
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jazzykiwi</b></div><div>Caps should pass on Kuzmenko</div></div>
Included them based on rumoured interest. Kuzmenko might be a better fit on a team with more cap flexibility and more run way for Kuz to re-establish his game. Sharks come to mind. If he has a good season next year he becomes a good trade asset for them at next year deadline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 7 h 9
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>CGY and PHI probably get better offers.
I dont think either prospect on offer would be considered high, maybe high mid level. But VAN 1st is low in the round, and the 2nd on offer to PHI is 2025.
Not bad, but I think both teams get better offers</div></div>
That’s fair. I still think it’s unlikely Canucks include Hoglander, Lekkirimaki, Wallinder or Silvos. But the next tier is definitely in play (Raty, Klimovich, Karlsson, Bains) along with the 1st. Maybe Podkolzin but unlikely for a rental. If the price gets to high for Lindholm I think Canucks look to a tier below like Monahan or Duclair
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Armchair-GM
23 janv. à 5 h 13
Sujet:
Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That won't get you Lindholm</div></div>
Return for Horvat was 1st, Raty and Beauvilier in a year Horvat scored 38 goals the year after scoring 31. Horvat > Lindholm and Lindholm isn’t going to re-sign so I can’t see the price being higher than a 1st and high prospect unless there is interest in having Kuzmenko as part of the package
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23 janv. à 0 h 0
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E4 Eklund knows
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Remove Kuzmenko and trade Hoglander.
Apparently Calgary is pretty high on Hoglander, according to a source I read.
Can’t see Vancouver doing this kind of trade with Anaheim.</div></div>
Hoglander is 3rd in the league in goals per 60 5v5 (min 20 games played). He is too valuable to move. Canucks aren’t likely to move a roster player outside of Kuz.
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Armchair-GM
21 janv. à 5 h 55
Sujet:
Deadline
Canucks accept easily
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Armchair-GM
20 janv. à 13 h 45
Sujet:
legit or nah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Hyperbole aside we aren't interested in Hoglander or Podkolzin, maybe one of them as an throw in but not as a main piece. They're both left shot wingers, about the very last thing Calgary needs or wants other than another NHL goalie. Neither one is as good as some of you claim either.
It'll take a better player or prospect than either of those two, a 1st and a 2nd. Or something of equivalent quality and value.
Otherwise go pound sand. Bidding wars aren't won by the low bid you know.</div></div>
I agree with your valuation. 1st, 2nd and a prospect for Lindholm with retention. So pound your own sand.
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