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Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 23

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Morcax_Attax</b></div><div>:-D nooo waaay Greg.
Have you heard about Makar for example?</div></div>

hes too young, give him another year or two and he will be here

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 23

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07 </b></div><div>its not though. nice try.</div></div>

take a glance at the points leaders among defensemen

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 22

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>It does matter if your create chances, because if I'm shooting on your goalie I doubt ur shooting on mine. I agree though that stats aren't always the way to go.</div></div>

Hockey is a back and forth game. you can be createing as many chances as you want, but if you arent finishing, then they dont matter.
You could keep me hemmed in my zone for 2 mins by creating a ton of chances, but never finish. I could go on a breakaway on the same shift and score.

goals>chances created

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 19

Sujet: top 10 winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>well he asked to be traded so its not really the same thing at all</div></div>

He never wanted to be traded. Go check some EK65 interviews from 2018. He wanted to be a Sen for life

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 55

Sujet: top 10 winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>last time i checked they are trying to trade laine, you dont a trade him if hes as good as you say</div></div>

The Sens also traded Erik Karlsson. Just because you get traded, doesnt mean you are bad

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 54

Sujet: top 10 winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kukas2600</b></div><div>lockroom cancer? but he has an ‘A’ on his jersey and special handshakes with everyone on his team. Is literally best friends with Matthews and Hyman. Was a big reason as to why Tavares came to Toronto (to play with a good playmaker/hockey iq guy). LITERALLY GOT COMPLIMENTED ON HOW SMART HE IS BY JON COOPER.

“doesn't even try” but is a top three 2 way player on his team. started throwing the body in the playoffs. blocks shots without caring about getting one in the face, just says “that’s what dentists are for.” was still top 20 in scoring this year and he only played like 59 games. (67 points)

“i don’t care if he gets points” but your argument to everything else is “offense >>>>>>> defense” open your eyes. marner does both. pick an arguement and stick to it bud.</div></div>

He looks lazy, he wanted big bucks, but hes not worth them. hes like a little girl on the ice. Too scared to go in corners. Hes not worth 10.8. He never will be

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 53

Sujet: top 10 winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bunzy1034</b></div><div>Yeah in my opinion Brodin is the best defensive defenceman in the league and spurgeon is literally good at everything. I have spurgeon in my top 5 dman no joke</div></div>

I would go as far as top 5, I think there are definitely 10 defensemen better than him (you can see them on my top 20 defenseman list), but he has a solid arguement for 11-20

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 50

Sujet: top 10 winger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>yet you have laine who is lazy and a lockeroom cancer, marner is waaaaaay better than laine</div></div>

last time I checked, Laine is the elite sniper who scored 30 goals on a down year
Marner only gets a bunch of assists playing with great goal scorers like Matthews and Tavares

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 48

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I just don’t agree with eichel. To me he’s around 15-20. Barkov is super elite defensively I can respect including him but Eichel hasn’t accomplished anything I think as deserving. No playoff games no individual awards nothing as of yet really stands out. Elite centre yes top ten not yet in my opinion. If use the bad team argument that’s somewhat fair but they have a trophy that’s normally designed for these cases called the hart. Hall won it with jersey so eichel should be able to stand out enough to win it with buffalo. That’s just my person view don’t expect much to agree.</div></div>

Eichel was in the Hart convo this year. If he was on any team other than Buffalo, Ottawa or Detroit, people would see him as a superstar

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 47

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>You've contradicted your own argument with this and agreed with me.</div></div>

How?

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 47

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>Corsi for percentage, or chances for ish vs chances against ish</div></div>

Does it really matter how many chances you create if you arent capitalizing on them?

Sure its good to make predictions and stuff, but using #fancystats to see who was the better play on a stat that does show how good you were is trash

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 10 h 44

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07 </b></div><div>because he is a defenseman and atrocious with his primary job.</div></div>

his primary job is to put the puck in the other team's net

He was the 4th most effective defenseman at doing just that this season

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 45

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>I don't claim to be a hockey guru but when guys like Bob Mackenzie or Craig Button or Brian Burke or Don Cherry say that +/- is an overrated stat. I tend to listen to them over some guy on YouTube who has fooled a bunch of morons into believing he knows everything about hockey.</div></div>

Lets look at those names you just mentioned

MacKenzie-RETIRED
Button-FIRED AFTER 1 SEASON AS GM
Burke-FIRED BY THE LEAFS
Cherry-FIRED BY SPORTSNET

So next time you tell me about some random TV guys, check to see if you are reaching in the trash can or recycling bin

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 29

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>because award voting outside of the top 3 doesn't matter.</div></div>

Last time I checked, nobody cares about who came in 4th. Medals at the olympics go to who again? Not the person who came in 4th thats for sure

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 28

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>kopitar had a CF% of 53 this year...wouldn’t say he’s washed</div></div>

What is CF%

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 28

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PinkWhitney</b></div><div>The argument was not who was better between Beregon and Kopitar. You said Barkov is the next best two way center after Bergeron and I just explained to you that it is clearly Kopitar. Not Barkov.</div></div>

Barkov still got more Selke votes than Kopitar

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 27

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>i know ahahah just warning you...things can get really heated on here really fast!! have fun with it though!!</div></div>

Ive had my fair share of arguements in my life, a couple more cant hurt eh?

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 26

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>OMFG your kidding right! Some lame brain "hockey guy" who has over 100k subscribers on YouTube must mean he is some sort of Hockey guru who works for TSN, Sportsnet or ESPN right! Anyone who knows anything about hockey knows that +/- is the most overrated stat there is.</div></div>

Last time I checked, he was the one who thousands of people go to for hockey opinions because he is smart and reliable

You are just some guy behind a screen

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 25

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>guys he just joined capfriendly yesterday let’s cut him some slack...</div></div>

Its okay lol. Ive been a hockey fan for over 20 years. Im just getting into the interweb stuff now

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 24

Sujet: top 10 defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>+/- is a very skewed stat a player can be on the bench for 90% of a play then step on as a goal is scored having absolutely no influence on the play and it counts as a plus for him if his team scores or a minus if the other team scores. Using +/- to support your arguement of who is the best defenseman is like using goals scored as an argument for who is the best goalie.</div></div>

Its helpful to determine impact
If you have a + you had a positive impact
But if you were a - then you had a negative impact

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 1

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>lol he's only had a season minus once. his +/- was higher than barkovs this year.</div></div>

Then explain why Barkov always gets more Selke votes

Forum: Armchair-GM4 nov. 2020 à 0 h 0

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PinkWhitney</b></div><div>He would have gotten over 70 points if the season didn't end. He's had more points than Bergeron almost every year while having worse linemates and being on a rebuilding team some of those seasons. Won 2 selkes in the last 4 years while being nominated quite a few times.

"Only a +6" while being on a bottom 5 team is pretty dang good...</div></div>

Bergeron is still a Selke candidate

Kopitar wasnt nominated this year

Bergeron has 4 Selkes. Kopitar has 2

4>2

Forum: Armchair-GM3 nov. 2020 à 23 h 57

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>lol i just looked at these categories and Matthews is higher in both. didn't even know that.</div></div>

Matthews was a minus, then a plus then a minus then again a plus. Hes very inconsistent. Barkov has been a plus for 4 years in his career

Forum: Armchair-GM3 nov. 2020 à 23 h 56

Sujet: top 10 centre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chloewoj</b></div><div>yup because he didn’t get 92 points a few years ago</div></div>

And John Scott was the All star game MVP a few years ago

Whats your point? I said he is washed. Which means that he was good before, but isnt anymore

Forum: Armchair-GM3 nov. 2020 à 23 h 54

Sujet: Top 10 goalie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Bro Fleury is washed, Binnington got lit up by Vancouver, and Bishop lost his job to his back up. You're clearly a casual and should probably stop making these top 10s</div></div>

Fleury has 3 cups and is top 6 in wins
Binnigton had one bad series (every goalie has rough patches) You might be forgetting what he did in last year's playoffs
Bishop was injured in the playoffs. If you dont know that, then you are the casual

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